Sorry, I missed this. Why were they not allowed to play?Paul Cooksey wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 7:23 amThe exclusion of the Ukrainians means I have not followed this event as I normally would.
Nicosia FIDE Women's Grand Prix
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You seem generally well informed about FIDE events.NickFaulks wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 9:39 amSorry, I missed this. Why were they not allowed to play?Paul Cooksey wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 7:23 amThe exclusion of the Ukrainians means I have not followed this event as I normally would.
Before asking the question above, we should ask why at the last minute the event was moved from Poland to Cyprus.
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That might usually be true, but recently I have been besieged by other matters and have not paid attention.
I'll take the bait and ask that question. I take it that you know the answer.Before asking the question above, we should ask why at the last minute the event was moved from Poland to Cyprus.
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Given the total lack of any explanation from FIDE, we can only develop our assumptions and conspiracy theories. Or listen to people like Peter Heine Nielsen that seem to make reasonable assumptions.NickFaulks wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 10:00 amThat might usually be true, but recently I have been besieged by other matters and have not paid attention.I'll take the bait and ask that question. I take it that you know the answer.Before asking the question above, we should ask why at the last minute the event was moved from Poland to Cyprus.
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I have now wasted a bit of time hunting through all the usual sources, but have come up empty. The Polish event originally announced just seems to have disappeared without leaving a trace.
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What's his theory?Paolo Casaschi wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 10:21 amOr listen to people like Peter Heine Nielsen that seem to make reasonable assumptions.
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According to PHN: “Originally the event was planned for Poland, but as they do not allow participation of Russian athletes, it was moved to Cyprus, in effect meaning Russian player could still play, and Ukrainians would have to withdraw.”NickFaulks wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 10:35 amWhat's his theory?Paolo Casaschi wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 10:21 amOr listen to people like Peter Heine Nielsen that seem to make reasonable assumptions.
https://twitter.com/PHChess/status/1662 ... fY_JAuAAAA
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Looking at the timestamps on the forum, it seems you spent at most a total time of 24 minutes. I wonder if you really searched or did you already know nothing was to be found???
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I never understand the purpose of these personal slurs. I was completely new to this issue so googled a few key phrases and searched chessbase, lichess etc. I was surprised to find nothing ( Chessbase can normally be relied upon for some comment even if it is not well researched ) and thought you might save me some time.Paolo Casaschi wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 10:49 amLooking at the timestamps on the forum, it seems you spent at most a total time of 24 minutes. I wonder if you really searched or did you already know nothing was to be found???
Are you ( or PHN ) saying that Ukrainians are now refusing to compete against Russian women playing under the FIDE flag? I thought they were not doing that.
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It's an instruction from Ukraine. Both Lagno & Shuvalova are Russian on the FIDE rating site although I see that Goryachkina now shows as FIDE. There are probably better links but this was the first one I found:NickFaulks wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 9:39 amSorry, I missed this. Why were they not allowed to play?Paul Cooksey wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 7:23 amThe exclusion of the Ukrainians means I have not followed this event as I normally would.
https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine ... larusians/
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Round 11 | Nicosia | 27.05.2023
Lagno, Kateryna — Assaubayeva, Bibisara ½ — ½
Shuvalova, Polina — Kiolbasa, Oliwia 1 — 0
Mammadzada, Gunay — Kosteniuk, Alexandra ½ — ½
Tan, Zhongyi — Dzagnidze, Nana ½ — ½
Khotenashvili, Bella — Wagner, Dinara 0 — 1
Goryachkina, Aleksandra — Dronavalli, Harika ½ — ½
Dinara Wagner wins the tournament (despite being the lowest rated) and makes her first grandmaster norm.
Lagno, Kateryna — Assaubayeva, Bibisara ½ — ½
Shuvalova, Polina — Kiolbasa, Oliwia 1 — 0
Mammadzada, Gunay — Kosteniuk, Alexandra ½ — ½
Tan, Zhongyi — Dzagnidze, Nana ½ — ½
Khotenashvili, Bella — Wagner, Dinara 0 — 1
Goryachkina, Aleksandra — Dronavalli, Harika ½ — ½
Dinara Wagner wins the tournament (despite being the lowest rated) and makes her first grandmaster norm.
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I'm saying that FIDE mismanaged the situation and the lack of communication makes FIDE look even worse. Thus the understandable comment from another forum member that all this resulted in a lack of interest for the event.NickFaulks wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 11:18 amI never understand the purpose of these personal slurs. I was completely new to this issue so googled a few key phrases and searched chessbase, lichess etc. I was surprised to find nothing ( Chessbase can normally be relied upon for some comment even if it is not well researched ) and thought you might save me some time.Paolo Casaschi wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 10:49 amLooking at the timestamps on the forum, it seems you spent at most a total time of 24 minutes. I wonder if you really searched or did you already know nothing was to be found???
Are you ( or PHN ) saying that Ukrainians are now refusing to compete against Russian women playing under the FIDE flag? I thought they were not doing that.
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FIDE report with photos
Regarding the overall scores of the full Grand Prix, the winner is GM Kateryna Lagno, followed closely by GM Aleksandra Goryachkina. Both of these players qualify for the 2024 Women’s Candidates Tournament
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The remaining candidates qualifying routes: https://worldchampionshipcycle.fide.com ... 2023-2025/ so the July match runner-up, three from the world cup and two from the Grand Swiss.Mick Norris wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 9:46 amFIDE report with photos
Regarding the overall scores of the full Grand Prix, the winner is GM Kateryna Lagno, followed closely by GM Aleksandra Goryachkina. Both of these players qualify for the 2024 Women’s Candidates Tournament