If it was me - Given that Humpy can win with black I'd say you have to go out in with both colours.Christopher Kreuzer wrote:If you were in Jovanka's position (graded 2421), playing a player graded much higher (2600 - the top seed), and given the nature of the event and the time controls, what strategy would you adopt (apart from trying to win!). Does draw with Black and win with White still apply?LozCooper wrote: Koneru v Houska
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If Yelena Dembo plays as well in this tournament as she does on the internet, she'll win it easily.
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I wouldn't take internet performances and ratings too seriously. There's a few players who have been over 3000 on icc who seem unable to reproduce that level of play over the boardJon D'Souza-Eva wrote:If Yelena Dembo plays as well in this tournament as she does on the internet, she'll win it easily.
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It's very effective in two game knockout matches Jovanka tends to be very solid with black and clearly a draw with black would be a great result. How she plays with white will partly depend on how the black game goes.Christopher Kreuzer wrote:If you were in Jovanka's position (graded 2421), playing a player graded much higher (2600 - the top seed), and given the nature of the event and the time controls, what strategy would you adopt (apart from trying to win!). Does draw with Black and win with White still apply?LozCooper wrote: Koneru v Houska
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Just to be a little pedantic
Humpy isn't the top seed as that is Kosteniuk being the reigning champion, she is just the highest rated player
Humpy isn't the top seed as that is Kosteniuk being the reigning champion, she is just the highest rated player
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Game in progress move 17 - looks about even so far, I think 16 .... c5 was a very good move and has equalised, with the likely outcome a draw.
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Jovanka loses from what looks like a time-trouble blunder.
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Looks like I got that one wrong
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Round 2 results: Tuesday 7th December 1pm:
Khukhashvili v Kosteniuk 0.5-0.5
Ruan v Zhang 1-0
Yildiz v Muzychuk M 0-1
Shadrina v Harika 0-1
Kosintseva v Dembo 0-1
Zhao Xue v Chiburdanidze 1-0
Skripchenko v Dzagnidze 0.5-0.5
Cmilyte v Paehtz 0-1
Koneru v Houska 1-0
Zatonskih v Sebag 1-0
Ovod v Muzychuk A 0-1
Ju v Kovanova 0.5-0.5
Romanko v Hou Yifan 0-1
Socko v Zhu Chen 0.5-0.5
Stefanova v Huang 1-0
Hoang v Lahno 0.5-0.5
http://wwcc2010.tsf.org.tr/en/component ... ew&kid=134
Khukhashvili v Kosteniuk 0.5-0.5
Ruan v Zhang 1-0
Yildiz v Muzychuk M 0-1
Shadrina v Harika 0-1
Kosintseva v Dembo 0-1
Zhao Xue v Chiburdanidze 1-0
Skripchenko v Dzagnidze 0.5-0.5
Cmilyte v Paehtz 0-1
Koneru v Houska 1-0
Zatonskih v Sebag 1-0
Ovod v Muzychuk A 0-1
Ju v Kovanova 0.5-0.5
Romanko v Hou Yifan 0-1
Socko v Zhu Chen 0.5-0.5
Stefanova v Huang 1-0
Hoang v Lahno 0.5-0.5
http://wwcc2010.tsf.org.tr/en/component ... ew&kid=134
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Re: Women's World Championship 2-25 December 2010
It looked to me like Jovanka had a number of opportunities to neutralise the position and take a draw. Perhaps Jovanka felt this was her chance to beat Koneru and she played very ambitiously. Obviously with the benefit of hindsight that looks like a mistake, but one cannot criticise her efforts and we will just have to hope for better luck tomorrow.
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Didn't Jovanka blunder a piece, and then Humpy give it back (move 35) ? I'd be surprised if it doesn't end in a draw from here, but I wouldn't mind being wrong.
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Im pretty sure , h+f + R V R is drawn with kings as they are, so the d pawn is not needed?
Jovanka has played really well , and probaly scared her opponent both yesterday and today. I hope that Black blunders here or its a draw.
Is the first bit right, I knew I should do more karsten muller endgame work, i swear the split is a draw, in fact I've held the split V an IM over 152 moves so I assume yes
Jovanka has played really well , and probaly scared her opponent both yesterday and today. I hope that Black blunders here or its a draw.
Is the first bit right, I knew I should do more karsten muller endgame work, i swear the split is a draw, in fact I've held the split V an IM over 152 moves so I assume yes
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Re: Women's World Championship 2-25 December 2010
Ben - depends on the position as to whether it's a win or a draw. To state the obvious, R + fP + hP v R is one of the more complex endings.
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Khukhashvili v Kosteniuk 0.5-0.5 0.5-0.5 1-1 Kosteniuk won 3-1 after play-off.
Ruan v Zhang 1-0 0-1 1-1 Play-off Ruan won 3-1 after play-off.
Yildiz v Muzychuk M 0-1 0-1 0-2 Muzychuk goes through
Shadrina v Harika 0-1 0-1 0-2 Harika goes through
Kosintseva v Dembo 0-1 0.5-0.5 0.5-1.5 Dembo goes through
Zhao Xue v Chiburdanidze 1-0 0.5-0.5 1.5-0.5 Zhao Xue goes through
Skripchenko v Dzagnidze 0.5-0.5 0.5-0.5 1-1 Skripchenko won 3-1 after play-off.
Cmilyte v Paehtz 0-1 1-0 1-1 Cmilyte won 2.5-1.5 after play-off.
Koneru v Houska 1-0 0.5-0.5 1.5-0.5 Koneru goes through
Zatonskih v Sebag 1-0 1-0 Zatonskih goes through
Ovod v Muzychuk A 0-1 0.5-0.5 0.5-1.5 Muzychuk goes through
Ju v Kovanova 0.5-0.5 1-0 1.5-0.5 Ju goes through
Romanko v Hou Yifan 0-1 0.5-0.5 Hou goes through
Socko v Zhu Chen 0.5-0.5 0.5-0.5 1-1 Zhu Chen won 3-1 after play-off.
Stefanova v Huang 1-0 0-1 1-1 Huang won 3-1 after play-off.
Hoang v Lahno 0.5-0.5 0.5-0.5 1-1 Lahno won 3-1 after play-off.
Ruan v Zhang 1-0 0-1 1-1 Play-off Ruan won 3-1 after play-off.
Yildiz v Muzychuk M 0-1 0-1 0-2 Muzychuk goes through
Shadrina v Harika 0-1 0-1 0-2 Harika goes through
Kosintseva v Dembo 0-1 0.5-0.5 0.5-1.5 Dembo goes through
Zhao Xue v Chiburdanidze 1-0 0.5-0.5 1.5-0.5 Zhao Xue goes through
Skripchenko v Dzagnidze 0.5-0.5 0.5-0.5 1-1 Skripchenko won 3-1 after play-off.
Cmilyte v Paehtz 0-1 1-0 1-1 Cmilyte won 2.5-1.5 after play-off.
Koneru v Houska 1-0 0.5-0.5 1.5-0.5 Koneru goes through
Zatonskih v Sebag 1-0 1-0 Zatonskih goes through
Ovod v Muzychuk A 0-1 0.5-0.5 0.5-1.5 Muzychuk goes through
Ju v Kovanova 0.5-0.5 1-0 1.5-0.5 Ju goes through
Romanko v Hou Yifan 0-1 0.5-0.5 Hou goes through
Socko v Zhu Chen 0.5-0.5 0.5-0.5 1-1 Zhu Chen won 3-1 after play-off.
Stefanova v Huang 1-0 0-1 1-1 Huang won 3-1 after play-off.
Hoang v Lahno 0.5-0.5 0.5-0.5 1-1 Lahno won 3-1 after play-off.