2023 National Stages

[Richard Bates]

Phew!

Do we know who won?

Middlesex won 38-37 on board count. The “phew!” is additionally explained by boards 2 and 15 being the last two to finish…

[Graham Borrowdale]

The Surrey board 15 seemed to take great risks trying to win with Q vs NB+pawns and lost, but presumably he thought his board 2 was losing so he needed to win. As it happened bd 2 was drawn so a draw would have won the match for Surrey.

[Kevin Thurlow]

"Is that the Peter Lee on board 1 in the Open - British Champion as long ago as 1965."

I played him at the Basman Memorial, just after having a long and interesting chat with him between rounds. He said he hadn't played for ages, but he obviously got the taste for it again.

[Roger de Coverly]

He said he hadn't played for ages, but he obviously got the taste for it again.

Would he fancy a go at the British Over 65s? The only "class" player entered so far this year is Terry Chapman.

[Richard Thursby]

The Surrey board 15 seemed to take great risks trying to win with Q vs NB+pawns and lost, but presumably he thought his board 2 was losing so he needed to win. As it happened bd 2 was drawn so a draw would have won the match for Surrey.

Interestingly enough, exactly six years ago today, one of those players was the last board to finish in a match decided on board count, but that time with a different result (both as an individual and for the team).

[Christopher Kreuzer]

The Surrey board 15 seemed to take great risks trying to win with Q vs NB+pawns and lost, but presumably he thought his board 2 was losing so he needed to win. As it happened bd 2 was drawn so a draw would have won the match for Surrey.

Interestingly enough, exactly six years ago today, one of those players was the last board to finish in a match decided on board count, but that time with a different result (both as an individual and for the team).

Am I going to have to try and work out which match that was in the 2016/17 County Championships?

https://www.ecfresource.co.uk/county-ch ... s-archive/

https://www.ecfresource.co.uk/county-ch ... ive/#Y1617

Was it the U180 final between Devon and Middlesex?

I see you drew your game in that match, Richard.

https://www.oxfordfusion.com/oca/ViewCu ... ot=1&Org=4

Is it the result on board 7 you are talking about here?

[Mick Norris]

Open - Surrey 8-8 Middlesex, Middlesex won on board count

Minor - Cambs 8-8 Norfolk. Cambs won on board count

u2050 - Warks v Essex, Essex won by default

u1850 - Yorks 6-10 Middlesex

u1650 - Yorks 9-7 Warks

u1450 - G Man 8.5-3.5 Essex

SCCU 3, NCCU 2, EACU 1

[Richard Thursby]

Am I going to have to try and work out which match that was in the 2016/17 County Championships?

You then proceeded to work it out anyway. Yes I drew my game, to keep up my run in County Championship finals of drawing my game while being on the losing side (3 for 3). I was quite a late addition and, as you can see by one of the links you posted, I had been so inactive I only had one grade.

[Mick Norris]

[Event "County Championship Final"] [Site "Egham ENG"] [Date "2023.07.01"] [Round "1.1"] [White "Bates, Ri"] [Black "Lee, P."] [Result "1-0"] [ECO "E68"] [WhiteElo "2324"] [BlackElo "2390"] [PlyCount "67"] [EventDate "2023.07.01"] [EventType ""] [EventRounds "1"] [EventCountry "ENG"] [Source "Mark Crowther"] [SourceDate "2023.07.03"] [WhiteTeam "Middlesex"] [BlackTeam "Surrey"] 1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 g6 3. c4 Bg7 4. g3 O-O 5. Bg2 d6 6. O-O Nbd7 7. Nc3 e5 8. e4 Re8 9. h3 a5 10. Be3 exd4 11. Nxd4 Nc5 12. Qc2 c6 13. Rad1 Qe7 14. Rfe1 Bd7 15. Bf4 d5 16. cxd5 cxd5 17. e5 Nh5 18. Nxd5 Qf8 19. Nc7 Nxf4 20. gxf4 Rac8 21. Nxe8 Qxe8 22. Qe2 Qe7 23. Qf3 Bh6 24. f5 Qh4 25. e6 fxe6 26. fxe6 Be8 27. e7 Qf4 28. Qxf4 Bxf4 29. Nb3 Nxb3 30. Rd8 Rb8 31. axb3 Bc7 32. Bd5+ Kg7 33. Rxb8 Bxb8 34. Rc1 1-0

[Nick Ivell]

That looks to me like a game where resignation was anything but premature.

[Richard Bates]

Anyone know if the National Stages were FIDE rated?

[Roger de Coverly]

Anyone know if the National Stages were FIDE rated?

If you look up yourself and Peter Lee, neither of you feature with a county championship game.

I don't know if it was intended that the National Stages should be rated, but it hasn't happened.

[Mick Norris]

It was advertised by the ECF as FIDE rated

The semi finals were

The Rating report on the FIDE website for the final seems to show 12 players each having drawn

[Richard Bates]

It was advertised by the ECF as FIDE rated

The semi finals were

The Rating report on the FIDE website for the final seems to show 12 players each having drawn

Ok, thanks Mick. So all the wins not submitted or missed out for some reason. Not just that Peter hadn’t played a rated game since the 1960s and FIDE didn’t believe he was the same person

[Mick Norris]

semi-final 1

semi-final 2 which I can see has a mistake, with "Adams Tytons" rather than "Adam Tyton" and may have a couple of players missing match card

Final