David Pardoe wrote:Alan, I appreciate what you are saying regarding meetings, and they are often under severe time pressure to get through the business.
However, individual members should be able to raise motions at these meetings, independantly of clubs.
Sometimes a person may wish to raise a motion that his club might not be interested in, but might nevertheless benefit the league. I was on a number of committees and an active organiser, so things were occuring to me that I felt were worth raising.
Also, the process of taking things through clubs, committees, AGMs, etc.. can be tedius and long winded, by which time people can loose interest. I`ve known these things go on for years and get no-where. I`d gone dirctly to the league secretary, who asked me to draft the motions, which I did. Somehow they got mixed up and the wording became jumbled and some motions ended up mis drafted.
There is also an attidute problem with some chess bodies. Its a case of `who do these plebs think they are, and what do they know about chess. These ordinary members should get back into there boxes and concentrate on paying there subs....should be seen and not heard.. What a pig ignorant attitude.
I was helping drive change through the MCF council, and pressing the MCCU to get there finger out and sort a few things out. Unfortunately others seemed more interested in simply shoving a spanner in the works.
As for the notion that I dont communicate...I was one of the most prolific communicators in northern chess, and recieved a good deal of thanks from various people for keeping them informed.
Yes, process and procedure can be a tricky hurdle, and oversights can occur.
As for Micks comment that I didnt discuss things with the county captains. For most of the time I was the county captains.
I think we can extend this quote to sons as well.A busy mother makes slothful daughters.
Have you ever been introduced to a spell checker? They're useful functions you know!
If you observe your message before you submit to this forum you can observe any individual spelling issues (they tend to be underlined with red wavy lines), or in your case the majority of the message. Perhaps its wise to utilise such clever functions we've got at our disposal now.
I think your attitude (not attidute) is appalling - you come across as just a petty little sniper who's been on various committees spouting a lot of hot air with no real purpose. Just a lot of irrelevant cant (yes cant) with no real purpose. The real volunteers I speak of actually allow chess activity. I.E. Run congresses/tournaments. This is not idiotic just someone who is grateful (sorry I mean greatful) for the hundreds of organisers and arbiters (yes they're not power-crazed as such formites/termites believe) who spend time out of their otherwise busy lives allow ordinary chess players just get on with playing chess. They don't spout out some stupid rules or care who plays in what county in what year - for goodness sakes who cares - I know some players from Manchester so I know you're not representative of that population - thank goodness or you may has well turn the lights off in regards to the playing of chess in the MCCU if that's the case!
Apart from that David, I find you an engaging, interesting and intelligent individual!
