County teams 2011-12

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County teams 2011-12

Postby Mick Norris » Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:16 pm

Greater Manchester are entering the U160 as usual, but our Open team is entering Div 2

This may make us unpopular with Staffs and Warks, as they may be in a division of only 2 - I assume Notts have dropped their Open team

We may be unpopular in Div 2 with Lincs, Leics, Worcs, Derbys and Shrops too :)
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Re: County teams 2011-12

Postby Alex Holowczak » Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:22 pm

Mick Norris wrote:We may be unpopular in Div 2 with Lincs, Leics, Worcs, Derbys and Shrops too :)


Meh, we lose to everyone anyway... :oops:

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Re: County teams 2011-12

Postby Sean Hewitt » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:08 am

Knowing my luck, Leics will be at home to GM!

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Re: County teams 2011-12

Postby Mick Norris » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:00 am

G Man play everyone other than Derbys at neutral venues, our U160 played Leics at Newcastle-under-Lyme Bridge club last season, which seems to have taken over from Stoke as the preferred venue (and is pretty good in my experience)
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Re: County teams 2011-12

Postby Michele Clack » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:10 pm

Well at the Worcester meeting the other day Worcs decided, having picked up a very good top board over the summer and having a bunch of rapidly improving juniors, to have a go in Div 1 of the Open. So that should even up the numbers a bit.

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Re: County teams 2011-12

Postby Alex Holowczak » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:27 pm

michele clack wrote:Well at the Worcester meeting the other day Worcs decided, having picked up a very good top board over the summer and having a bunch of rapidly improving juniors, to have a go in Div 1 of the Open. So that should even up the numbers a bit.


They did what?! :shock:

At the AGM, there was a very real possibility of us not entering the Open at all this season, and instead entering the Under 180. Given we've finished last in Division Two for the last two seasons, I don't really know how they decided we were good enough for Division One!

Ah well, at least I've got an excuse now when I lose. :|

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Re: County teams 2011-12

Postby Mick Norris » Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:34 am

michele clack wrote:Well at the Worcester meeting the other day Worcs decided, having picked up a very good top board over the summer and having a bunch of rapidly improving juniors, to have a go in Div 1 of the Open. So that should even up the numbers a bit.


Good luck with that - who is you board 1 or is that a secret?
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Re: County teams 2011-12

Postby Sean Hewitt » Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:03 pm

Alex Holowczak wrote:
michele clack wrote:Well at the Worcester meeting the other day Worcs decided, having picked up a very good top board over the summer and having a bunch of rapidly improving juniors, to have a go in Div 1 of the Open. So that should even up the numbers a bit.


They did what?! :shock:

At the AGM, there was a very real possibility of us not entering the Open at all this season, and instead entering the Under 180. Given we've finished last in Division Two for the last two seasons, I don't really know how they decided we were good enough for Division One!

Ah well, at least I've got an excuse now when I lose. :|

On the bright side, they'll qualify for the national stages!

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Re: County teams 2011-12

Postby Alex Holowczak » Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:33 pm

Sean Hewitt wrote:On the bright side, they'll qualify for the national stages!


This is true. I guess we might even reach the Quarter Finals if we draw Yorkshire in the Preliminary Round - they've got more chance of defaulting than any other county based on recent evidence.

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Re: County teams 2011-12

Postby Mick Norris » Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:42 pm

Last 2 years G Man lost the Open preliminary to Middlesex and Essex

It was 3 years ago when there was more than 1 preliminary match, and we got crushed at Yorks
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Re: County teams 2011-12

Postby Alex Holowczak » Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:57 pm

OK, so suppose only two teams enter Division One. How does the MCCU allocate its third team to the Open? I assume the winner of Division Two will be nominated? So if Greater Manchester win it, for sake of argument, will they end up in the Open rather than Minor anyway?

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Re: County teams 2011-12

Postby Mick Norris » Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:02 pm

No, if there are only 2 Open teams, there should only be 2 going forward (seems fairer really)

The MCCU Rules say the top 2 in Div 2 will be entered for the Minor, so we would expect to get into that if we manage to finish in the top 2

However, we haven't had a great record recently in getting 16 players out, and this season I expect some of our Open matches to clash with our U160 matches, so who knows?

Glad to see Worcs having a go, ambition is good, and they can learn from the experience - it will keep Div 2 at a more manageable size and of course geographically it is a better fit with Staffs and Warks, so all 3 can get 1 home and 1 away game
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Re: County teams 2011-12

Postby Michele Clack » Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:14 pm

I think the top board is the Latvian player who won the Worcestershire Open and has moved to Worcester. The juniors include the Friar brothers and Kyle Reed I believe. I suspect that Alex H is also down as a rapidly improving younger player with a lot expected of him. :D

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Re: County teams 2011-12

Postby Sean Hewitt » Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:40 pm

michele clack wrote: I suspect that Alex H is also down as a rapidly improving younger player with a lot expected of him. :D

Worcestershire are b****red then :lol:

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Re: County teams 2011-12

Postby Carl Hibbard » Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:44 pm

I could be persuaded to turn up for a laugh with a little arm twisting?
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