Sean Hewitt wrote:Worcestershire are b****red thenmichele clack wrote: I suspect that Alex H is also down as a rapidly improving younger player with a lot expected of him.
County teams 2011-12
-
- Posts: 9085
- Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 5:18 pm
- Location: Oldbury, Worcestershire
Re: County teams 2011-12
Re: County teams 2011-12
That's ll be £13 pleaseCarl Hibbard wrote:I could be persuaded to turn up for a laugh with a little arm twisting?
-
- Posts: 9085
- Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 5:18 pm
- Location: Oldbury, Worcestershire
Re: County teams 2011-12
No it won't. He's ungraded, and we won't go over the 3 game threshold. (We'll have 2 games in the MCCU stage, and probably lose our first in the National Stage...)Sean Hewitt wrote:That'll be £13 pleaseCarl Hibbard wrote:I could be persuaded to turn up for a laugh with a little arm twisting?
Also, it's a year early.
Re: County teams 2011-12
It's sad when this and this need to be explained!Alex Holowczak wrote:No it won't. He's ungraded, and we won't go over the 3 game threshold. (We'll have 2 games in the MCCU stage, and probably lose our first in the National Stage...)Sean Hewitt wrote:That'll be £13 pleaseCarl Hibbard wrote:I could be persuaded to turn up for a laugh with a little arm twisting?
Also, it's a year early.
-
- Posts: 9085
- Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 5:18 pm
- Location: Oldbury, Worcestershire
-
- Posts: 8843
- Joined: Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:34 am
- Location: London
Re: County teams 2011-12
Well, I don't even intend to try and read that 19-page (soon to be more, no doubt) thread that sprung up recently...
-
- Posts: 437
- Joined: Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:38 pm
- Location: Worcestershire
Re: County teams 2011-12
Carl's not ungraded. He's down in the ECF list as 181, having played the odd game for Stratford.
-
- Posts: 9085
- Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 5:18 pm
- Location: Oldbury, Worcestershire
Re: County teams 2011-12
Oh right, I knew he was ungraded last season, and didn't realise he played a game again.michele clack wrote:Carl's not ungraded. He's down in the ECF list as 181, having played the odd game for Stratford.
-
- Posts: 231
- Joined: Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:54 pm
Re: County teams 2011-12
I assume the competition controller, Julie would consult counties to propose a format that is acceptable to competing teams.Alex Holowczak wrote:OK, so suppose only two teams enter Division One.
Re: County teams 2011-12
No need. The rules are clear - it's a match. It's happened a few times at U175/U180 level.raycollett wrote:I assume the competition controller, Julie would consult counties to propose a format that is acceptable to competing teams.Alex Holowczak wrote:OK, so suppose only two teams enter Division One.
-
- Posts: 10401
- Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:12 am
- Location: Bolton, Greater Manchester
Re: County teams 2011-12
Thanksmichele clack wrote:I think the top board is the Latvian player who won the Worcestershire Open and has moved to Worcester. The juniors include the Friar brothers and Kyle Reed I believe. I suspect that Alex H is also down as a rapidly improving younger player with a lot expected of him.
Any postings on here represent my personal views
-
- Posts: 10401
- Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:12 am
- Location: Bolton, Greater Manchester
Re: County teams 2011-12
Rayraycollett wrote:I assume the competition controller, Julie would consult counties to propose a format that is acceptable to competing teams.Alex Holowczak wrote:OK, so suppose only two teams enter Division One.
I assume we follow the MCCU rules
If it is just Staffs and Warks they play a match for the title and M1 nomination for the nationals - you might offer M3, if we get it, to the Div 2 teams, but they can surely just say no?
Div 2 first and second get the Minor nominations under MCCU Rules I think
Any postings on here represent my personal views
-
- Posts: 231
- Joined: Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:54 pm
Re: County teams 2011-12
[quote="Mick Norris]I assume we follow the MCCU rules :) [/quote]
I believe this is Julie's view. Votes re Open or Minor for Worcs are balanced on a knife edge today. Result late tonight.
I believe this is Julie's view. Votes re Open or Minor for Worcs are balanced on a knife edge today. Result late tonight.
-
- Posts: 9085
- Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 5:18 pm
- Location: Oldbury, Worcestershire
Re: County teams 2011-12
M1 and M2 will be decided by the Open. If we get 5 entries in Division One and Division Two, we're entitled to an M3 spots in the Open regardless of how many of those play in Division One. Whether a subsequent MCCU rule prevents this from being awarded due to only having two teams in Division One, I don't know.Mick Norris wrote:If it is just Staffs and Warks they play a match for the title and M1 nomination for the nationals - you might offer M3, if we get it, to the Div 2 teams, but they can surely just say no?
Div 2 first and second get the Minor nominations under MCCU Rules I think
If the Minor were a "normal" division, we could run our Division Two to the Minor rules and hope for three nominations. We can't though, because D4 of the ECF rules say we can only have two nominations regardless. Is there any reason for this? (There's usually a reason dating back to something that happened in 1965 which is the reason we have it today...)
-
- Posts: 5249
- Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:56 pm
- Location: Croydon
Re: County teams 2011-12
You're correct that the situation has arisen largely for historical reasons.Alex Holowczak wrote:If the Minor were a "normal" division, we could run our Division Two to the Minor rules and hope for three nominations. We can't though, because D4 of the ECF rules say we can only have two nominations regardless. Is there any reason for this? (There's usually a reason dating back to something that happened in 1965 which is the reason we have it today...)
However, the presumption is that, if a Union has five or more teams in its Open Division, the top three qualify for the Open Division of the National Stages and the next two for the Minor Counties Championship.
If the MCCU were allowed two teams in the Open and three in the Minor, the other Unions could reasonably ask why the MCCU were being given special treatment.
It's not too late for the MCCU to submit a propsed rule change for consideration at the October Council Meeting, if they consider that appropriate.