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I wouldn't disagree with that.

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Which is why in 2010 I proposed this was adopted as a template:
http://www.sccu.ndo.co.uk/increment.htm

As you know, I thought we ought to have a "standard" incremental time control for (roughly) 4 and 5 hour sessions - what was agreed in 2011 was that we could decide anything we like, as long as both captains agreed in advance - which is what I hope will be done

Sean pointed out that the SCCU time control of 35 moves would better be adapted to match the time controls used for non-incremental play

I suggest, therefore, that we agree with the 10 sec per move (from the start presumably, rather than from the first time control, although that could be done too) and agree appropriate rates for both 40 moves (Championship) and 36 moves (other)

Maybe 40/110 mins plus 20 mins plus 10 sec/move from move 1
and 36/80 mins plus 20 mins plus 10 sec/move from move 1

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That works out to be 4 hours 40 and 3 hours 40 respectively. So you need to find another 10 minutes in the 110/20 and 80/20 somewhere. So 115/25 and 85/25 would work. 110/30 and 80/30 would work. I prefer to keep the 30 minutes in the second session.

I'm happy that we can agree whatever time control we like in practice, but there needs to be a default one in case captains can't agree!

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If you have a 5 hour session, you are giving each player 150 mins

My suggestion uses 130 mins, leaving 20 mins at 10 sec per move i.e. 120 moves - should be fine

For a 4 hour session, you have 120 mins each

I'm allocating 100 mins, again giving 120 moves to finish

Like most mathematicians, I can't add up, but it seems to be right to me

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I would suggest

40/110 + 30 mins + 10 secs per move from move 1
36/80 + 30 mins + 10 secs per move from move 1

FIDE has a regulation to say that an incremental game is of the length determined by a 60-move game, not 120-move game. There's absolutely nothing wrong with your proposal; there's no reason why it can't be anything other than 4 hours or 5 hours: So as long as you change "The duration of play in the Championship shall be not less than five hours" and "In the remaining grade restricted tournaments the duration of play shall be not less than four hours", then you're fine.

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Alex

I am more concerned with running out of time at the venue than with FIDE (or specifically, that's what I expect to hear from our opponents)

Discussed it briefly at the Manchester Autumn Congress this pm, which is using incremental time controls for the first time, and it was suggested 30 sec increment would be better

I wondered about 40/100 or 36/70 followed by 10 min with 30 sec from the start? That would give a break even of 40 moves after the time control, with the same amount of time as normal to the time control

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Sure, I was just making you aware of the necessary rule changes!



I agree that a 30-second increment is the ideal increment, but Sean's point about venues closing makes me wonder if that's practical. I don't like using increments shorter than that, because it's non-trivial to know if moves still need to be recorded. I'd be happy to play to your suggested time control, assuming it was practical.

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