County teams 2014-15

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County teams 2014-15

Postby Mick Norris » Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:35 pm

Fixture list is out, but subject to change
http://www.mccu.org.uk/cmatches/fixtures.htm
so keep an eye on it
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Re: County teams 2014-15

Postby Neil Graham » Mon Oct 13, 2014 11:47 pm

After losing their opening Under 120 match to Warwickshire by 7.5-4.5, Nottinghamshire exacted a swift revenge by beating the West Midlands side 9.5-6.5 in the Under 160 competition.

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Re: County teams 2014-15

Postby Mick Norris » Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:59 pm

G Man beat Staffs 9.5 - 6.5 in yesterday's match in the Open/Minor section :D

Good result against a strong (as always) Staffs team
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Re: County teams 2014-15

Postby David Pardoe » Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:14 pm

Here`s the final score card...
http://www.mccu.org.uk/cm14-15/minor/mi ... 9oct14.htm

Not sure I can see really that Staffs did much wrong, if there board 16 really was ungraded, but I suppose in a previous life he might have been graded at 200...rules are rules.
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Re: County teams 2014-15

Postby LawrenceCooper » Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:02 pm

David Pardoe wrote:Here`s the final score card...
http://www.mccu.org.uk/cm14-15/minor/mi ... 9oct14.htm

Not sure I can see really that Staffs did much wrong, if there board 16 really was ungraded, but I suppose in a previous life he might have been graded at 200...rules are rules.


A quick check of his grading profile will show he has never been graded 200 http://www.ecfgrading.org.uk/new/menu.p ... ile=player

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Re: County teams 2014-15

Postby Roger de Coverly » Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:10 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote:A quick check of his grading profile will show he has never been graded 200 http://www.ecfgrading.org.uk/new/menu.p ... ile=player


Why would the Rules default an ex-graded player in an Open competition? That's just having rules for the sake of it or because the controller likes being nasty to match captains.

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Re: County teams 2014-15

Postby AustinElliott » Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:56 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
LawrenceCooper wrote:A quick check of his grading profile will show he has never been graded 200 http://www.ecfgrading.org.uk/new/menu.p ... ile=player

Why would the Rules default an ex-graded player in an Open competition? That's just having rules for the sake of it or because the controller likes being nasty to match captains.


It does seem a bit unnecessary. Greater M'cr's Ian Lamb was pleased to have held on for the draw in a difficult ending, to the gratitude of his team mates as I hear it. He might now potentially be left feeling he needn't have bothered.

As a returnee to chess these last three seasons, after 30+ years absence, I have been struck by the encroachment of nit-picking rules, often seemingly imposed from on high in ways in which most rank and file club players find unnecessary (to put it mildly). I was at a match somewhere recently where a player's mobile phone went off early on, audibly. However, all the players apart from me must have been distinctly hard of hearing (....!), as no-one said anything, and there was no action -though a few amused smiles were exchanged.

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Re: County teams 2014-15

Postby Mick Norris » Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:23 pm

I'm not certain that the Rules apply to Open/Minor teams - see

http://www.mccu.org.uk/cmatches/ug_players.htm

and

http://www.mccu.org.uk/cmatches/cmrules.htm

from which

A player who has no published grade may participate in any grade restricted tournament providing that there is no doubt in the team captain's mind that the player is not of such a playing strength as to breach the limits set and the inclusion of that player is cleared with the County Championship Controller before he/she plays. An ungraded player not cleared prior to competing can be deemed to be an ineligible player and rule 4 will apply. It is accepted that in exceptional circumstances it may not be possible to contact the controller prior to the match, in such cases a player must be cleared within 48 hrs of the match taking place. Team captains should have recourse to previous grading lists and the advice of their local grader. Any disputes on ungraded players should be referred to the County Championship Controller for the tournament. Counties may enter more than one team in any grade restricted tournament. Where a county has more than one team in any grade restricted tournament, players are not interchangeable and each team must be a completely separate squad.


The Minor isn't (for the MCCU) a grade restricted competition, but in any event Staffs have entered the Open
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Re: County teams 2014-15

Postby LawrenceCooper » Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:27 am

The decision has now been reversed albeit the website appears to have a typo in the GM score http://www.mccu.org.uk/cm14-15/minor/mi ... 9oct14.htm

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Re: County teams 2014-15

Postby LawrenceCooper » Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:53 am

Staffordshire I v defeated Warwickshire I 9.5-6.5.

Board ECF Code Grade Staffs players’ names Score Score Warwickshire players’ names Grade ECF Code

1 104823F 210 Paul Wallace 0 1 Don Mason 199 115042L
2 105843F 195 Malcolm Armstrong ½ ½ Phil Holt 188 112921B
3 111759C 195 Lee Grinsell ½ ½ Tony Hynes 186 113334C
4 105731F 196 David Anderton 1 0 Richard Reynolds 159 117843K
5 105462E 192 Gerald Acey ½ ½ Mark Page 182 247591B
6 117886G 188 Alex Richardson 0 1 Joshua Pink 178 266464B
7 115243K 184 Andrew McCumiskey 1 0 Phil Bull 177 230857F
8 109109J 181 Alan Crombleholme ½ ½ Robin Huq 177 113256J
9 110144E 181 Simon Edwards 1 0 Keith Ingram 171 113372L
10 120687E 181 John Turner 1 0 Martin Smyth 165 119386H
11 106612C 173 Pat Bennett 1 0 Tony Sadler 165 248168G
12 108830A 173 David Cooper 1 0 John Mildenhall 163 115500D
13 109178F 171 John Crump ½ ½ Gary Hope 158 183305E
14 273508J 148 Robert Taylor ½ ½ Robert Reynolds 154 117842J
15 111774K 146 Mike Groombridge ½ ½ Nigel Byrne 149 154571B
16 109259K Est 145 David Daniels 0 1 John Fahy 146 233507E

9½ 6½

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Re: County teams 2014-15

Postby Mick Norris » Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:18 am

Good result

G Man drew with Worcs, so all to play for in the last games
http://www.mccu.org.uk/cm14-15/minor/minor_gmc_worcs8nov14.htm

Greater Manchester 2 1 1 0 3
Worcestershire 2 1 1 0 3
Warwickshire 2 1 0 1 2
Staffordshire 2 1 0 1 2

6 Dec Warwickshire - Greater Manchester
6 Dec Staffordshire - Worcestershire
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Re: County teams 2014-15

Postby LawrenceCooper » Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:12 am

Mick Norris wrote:Good result

G Man drew with Worcs, so all to play for in the last games
http://www.mccu.org.uk/cm14-15/minor/minor_gmc_worcs8nov14.htm

Greater Manchester 2 1 1 0 3
Worcestershire 2 1 1 0 3
Warwickshire 2 1 0 1 2
Staffordshire 2 1 0 1 2

6 Dec Warwickshire - Greater Manchester
6 Dec Staffordshire - Worcestershire


I spotted the deliberate mistake in your league table :oops:

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Re: County teams 2014-15

Postby Mick Norris » Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:25 am

I copied and pasted it straight from the MCCU website, I should have just done a link as Ray has now corrected it :lol:

Greater Manchester 2 1 1 0 3
Worcestershire 2 1 1 0 3
Staffordshire 2 1 0 1 2
Warwickshire 2 1 0 0 0
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Re: County teams 2014-15

Postby LawrenceCooper » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:12 am

Staffs 7 Worcs 9 from yesterday :cry:

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Re: County teams 2014-15

Postby Mick Norris » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:43 am

G Man 12.5 Warks 3.5 :D
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