Events Missing from the July 2012 Grading List
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Events Missing from the July 2012 Grading List
I've received an email (as have all graders) to say that the following events have not yet sent in their results for grading. If they are not received by next Friday (20th July) they won't make the July list. It may be that some of the events did not occur but it would help Richard Haddrell to know if that was the case, or if the organiser can be chivvied along!
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Buckinghamshire League
Cambridgeshire County League
Cannock & District League
Combined Banks & Insurance League
Dudley & District League
Exeter & District League
London Commercial League
SCCU U14/130
Surrey Border League
Surrey CCA: all events
Wolverhampton & District League
Worcestershire League
CONGRESSES 2012
MAR
Suffolk Junior
APR
Bloxwich Junior
JUN
South Lakes
LEAGUES
Buckinghamshire League
Cambridgeshire County League
Cannock & District League
Combined Banks & Insurance League
Dudley & District League
Exeter & District League
London Commercial League
SCCU U14/130
Surrey Border League
Surrey CCA: all events
Wolverhampton & District League
Worcestershire League
CONGRESSES 2012
MAR
Suffolk Junior
APR
Bloxwich Junior
JUN
South Lakes
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Re: Events Missing from the July 2012 Grading List
Thanks for this - I have politely reminded SCCA about it.
I thought there was exciting League Management software which allowed the grading to be done automatically, but apparently not.
I thought there was exciting League Management software which allowed the grading to be done automatically, but apparently not.
"Kevin was the arbiter and was very patient. " Nick Grey
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Re: Events Missing from the July 2012 Grading List
Is that number larger than normal? Is it possible that various graders may have changed e-mail addresses or things may be going astray, or is it just the normal sort of delays?
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Re: Events Missing from the July 2012 Grading List
Thanks, Kevin. I currently have all the Surrey League results laid out on my dining room table and I'm checking them one by one. The Main League results will go in later today.
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Re: Events Missing from the July 2012 Grading List
Could have put money on South Lakes not sending them in given I had a relatively decent result up there.
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Re: Events Missing from the July 2012 Grading List
Will email somebody about that - you could yet be in luck......Andrew Camp wrote:Could have put money on South Lakes not sending them in given I had a relatively decent result up there.
Did you enjoy your stay at Barrow earlier this year, btw??
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Loved it, Matt. Really enjoyed both congresses up that way this year and we hope to be coming again.
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Re: Events Missing from the July 2012 Grading List
It might be useful to send them an email. It may be that they don't appreciate the urgency as last year a June event would have been graded the following January.Andrew Camp wrote:Could have put money on South Lakes not sending them in given I had a relatively decent result up there.
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Re: Events Missing from the July 2012 Grading List
Kevin Thurlow wrote:I thought there was exciting League Management software which allowed the grading to be done automatically, but apparently not.
Is this dining room table anything to do with this League Management software?Mike Gunn wrote:Thanks, Kevin. I currently have all the Surrey League results laid out on my dining room table and I'm checking them one by one.
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Re: Events Missing from the July 2012 Grading List
In Surrey the results go through several bits of software, but not THE league management software (which I presume Kevin means). Experience proves it is still a good idea to hand check everything, no matter how automated your system. (Finished the hand check now.)
Re: Events Missing from the July 2012 Grading List
If these results are not received in time for the July list; once they are eventually included (ie hopefully for the January 2013 list) will they still be calculated using the players' grades as they were at the actual time of the event and not their new grade which they will receive in a few weeks time ?
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Re: Events Missing from the July 2012 Grading List
Didn't Roger answer this (http://www.ecforum.org.uk/viewtopic.php ... 4&start=30) when you brought the point up before?
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Re: Events Missing from the July 2012 Grading List
Michael; with all due respect to Roger, is he actually giving the definitive answer to the problem or just a point of view - I took his reply as the latter and thought that an ECF official might be the one to give a reply.
His previous answer was .. "So whilst you could make back dating work for players who already have grades, it isn't going to work for new players or those like juniors, that you treat as new players."
Note the word "could". That doesn't say it WOULD happen.
His previous answer was .. "So whilst you could make back dating work for players who already have grades, it isn't going to work for new players or those like juniors, that you treat as new players."
Note the word "could". That doesn't say it WOULD happen.
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Re: Events Missing from the July 2012 Grading List
Ok, then you can either wait for an answer from an ECF official on the forum, or (probably better) ask Richard Haddrell via the enquiry form on the grading site.
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Re: Events Missing from the July 2012 Grading List
No. They will be calculated using the grades current at the time of calculation. The online list’s Help page is explicit about this in the case of games reported too late for a January list:Alan Burke wrote:If these results are not received in time for the July list; once they are eventually included (ie hopefully for the January 2013 list) will they still be calculated using the players' grades as they were at the actual time of the event and not their new grade which they will receive in a few weeks time ?
The same principle applies to results reported too late for a July list. This was probably guessable but the Help page ought to have said it, and it will when I’ve made the required amendment.The great majority of leagues send interim reports so that their results up to 31st December can go into the January grading list. A few do not, and all their results will go into the July list, calculated using January grades. The January list will not be retrospectively amended to accommodate results reported late.
Sean’s post didn’t make the point that all of those leagues have made interim submissions. All Forum readers knew this, because it’s in Events Received for Grading 2011-12. I’m not seriously expecting any of them to miss the July list. Reminders to graders are a matter of routine, though I don’t usually post them on the Forum.