2nd Cambridge International Open

Details of upcoming UK events, please provide working links if possible.
Graham Borrowdale
Posts: 301
Joined: Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:54 pm

Re: 2nd Cambridge International Open

Post by Graham Borrowdale » Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:39 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:57 am
So! Who thinks they can predict the winner?!
After todays game I will say Adams - he survived a scare against Richard Pert to win today, and remains half a point behind the leaders.

Leonard Barden
Posts: 1861
Joined: Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:21 am

Re: 2nd Cambridge International Open

Post by Leonard Barden » Thu Feb 22, 2024 9:28 pm

The round 7 draw just up is headed by Willow v Tiviakov. Fernandez, who shares the lead with them. is shown unpaired and with a zero. Can anybody tell this hack with a deadline to catch what that's all about?

Jon D'Souza-Eva
Posts: 161
Joined: Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:53 am

Re: 2nd Cambridge International Open

Post by Jon D'Souza-Eva » Thu Feb 22, 2024 9:31 pm

The way that Mark Hebden's game went from drawish to completely lost was quite shocking. His opponent was 11 or 12 (depending on when her birthday is).
https://lichess.org/broadcast/2nd-cambr ... X/cTe3LcHb

User avatar
Christopher Kreuzer
Posts: 8839
Joined: Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:34 am
Location: London

Re: 2nd Cambridge International Open

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:10 pm

Leonard Barden wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2024 9:28 pm
The round 7 draw just up is headed by Willow v Tiviakov. Fernandez, who shares the lead with them. is shown unpaired and with a zero. Can anybody tell this hack with a deadline to catch what that's all about?
Is there a way to contact the organisers (or Fernandez himself?) direct? I can only think that there was some sort of bye requested earlier and it can't now be granted because he is one of the leaders?

Though it does say "not paired" and looks for all the world like it is a withdrawal like the other "not paired". Hope not. :(

Hope you get an answer in time for the deadline.
Last edited by Christopher Kreuzer on Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Jon D'Souza-Eva
Posts: 161
Joined: Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:53 am

Re: 2nd Cambridge International Open

Post by Jon D'Souza-Eva » Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:12 pm

Leonard Barden wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2024 9:28 pm
The round 7 draw just up is headed by Willow v Tiviakov. Fernandez, who shares the lead with them. is shown unpaired and with a zero. Can anybody tell this hack with a deadline to catch what that's all about?
Apparently he requested a half point bye, which he is allowed to do in the first seven rounds but not in the final two. I think the zero on chess-results.com must be incorrect.

User avatar
Christopher Kreuzer
Posts: 8839
Joined: Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:34 am
Location: London

Re: 2nd Cambridge International Open

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:14 pm

Jon D'Souza-Eva wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:12 pm
Leonard Barden wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2024 9:28 pm
The round 7 draw just up is headed by Willow v Tiviakov. Fernandez, who shares the lead with them. is shown unpaired and with a zero. Can anybody tell this hack with a deadline to catch what that's all about?
Apparently he requested a half point bye, which he is allowed to do in the first seven rounds but not in the final two. I think the zero on chess-results.com must be incorrect.
Do you mean first 6 rounds, not the final three? Hang on, I see what you mean. The bye is allowed, but has been entered incorrectly. There was a debate about byes in one of the tournaments Keith Arkell played in. Not quite comparable though.

Jon D'Souza-Eva
Posts: 161
Joined: Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:53 am

Re: 2nd Cambridge International Open

Post by Jon D'Souza-Eva » Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:20 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:14 pm
Do you mean first 6 rounds, not the final three?
No, I meant what I wrote. He is allowed to take one (*) half point bye in rounds 1-7 but not in rounds 8 or 9. I think the zero result for him in round 7 on chess-results.com is a mistake and will be corrected in due course.

(*) "players who receive conditions can only request one half-point bye" (https://www.englishchess.org.uk/2nd-cam ... onal-open/)

User avatar
Christopher Kreuzer
Posts: 8839
Joined: Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:34 am
Location: London

Re: 2nd Cambridge International Open

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:50 am

Leonard's Guardian column has been published with (after the main topic) a fair amount about the Cambridge International Open and comparisons with other events like this abroad.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/ ... op-players

Tim Spanton
Posts: 1212
Joined: Thu May 01, 2008 11:35 am

Re: 2nd Cambridge International Open

Post by Tim Spanton » Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:13 am

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:50 am
Leonard's Guardian column has been published with (after the main topic) a fair amount about the Cambridge International Open and comparisons with other events like this abroad.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/ ... op-players
Interesting piece, especially if you persevere to the end.

LawrenceCooper
Posts: 7261
Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:13 am

Re: 2nd Cambridge International Open

Post by LawrenceCooper » Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:00 am

Tim Spanton wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:13 am
Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:50 am
Leonard's Guardian column has been published with (after the main topic) a fair amount about the Cambridge International Open and comparisons with other events like this abroad.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/ ... op-players
Interesting piece, especially if you persevere to the end.
One minor point. Lorenzo Fava, Mickey's 5th round opponent, isn't a GM, albeit a very strong untitled Italian junior born in 2008

Jonathan Rogers
Posts: 4662
Joined: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:26 pm

Re: 2nd Cambridge International Open

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:08 am

Also, as Graham noted yesterday, Adams was really quite lost against Richard Pert. He drifted between moves 31-37 and Pert's winning line from 39 Re7 was not too hard to see. However I would hazard a guess that Richard was short of time and his misfortune was that the second best, "safe" move did not quite even give him equality ...

LawrenceCooper
Posts: 7261
Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:13 am

Re: 2nd Cambridge International Open

Post by LawrenceCooper » Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:13 am

Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:08 am
Also, as Graham noted yesterday, Adams was really quite lost against Richard Pert. He drifted between moves 31-37 and Pert's winning line from 39 Re7 was not too hard to see. However I would hazard a guess that Richard was short of time and his misfortune was that the second best, "safe" move did not quite even give him equality ...
To quote Richard from Facebook: "What else is there to say other than my brain stopped working when the finishing line was in sight. Gutting."

Jonathan Rogers
Posts: 4662
Joined: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:26 pm

Re: 2nd Cambridge International Open

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:14 am

There was a very important observation in the article that players between 2000-2400 (though I would say, more like 2150-2400) are simply absent from these events but everywhere at 4NCL. It is as though players in different rating groups are living parallel chess lives. (Though age is another factor; a young improving 2300 still has an incentive to play any type of event).

It seems to be a problem to which there has been no solution in the UK for several years, although actually Cambridge at least has more players in the experienced FM category than any other UK swiss. Location helps there, I expect.

Roger de Coverly
Posts: 21322
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:51 pm

Re: 2nd Cambridge International Open

Post by Roger de Coverly » Fri Feb 23, 2024 1:58 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:14 am
There was a very important observation in the article that players between 2000-2400 (though I would say, more like 2150-2400) are simply absent from these events but everywhere at 4NCL. It is as though players in different rating groups are living parallel chess lives. (Though age is another factor; a young improving 2300 still has an incentive to play any type of event).
One point is that in the absence of a tournament minimum rating, you are less likely in the 4NCL to run into a player whose rating is too low by several hundred points. Cambridge had a modest minimum rating of 1600. Players above 2000 can have an incentive not to allow their ratings to be excessively damaged, there are after all titles at 2200 and 2300.

NickFaulks
Posts: 8475
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:28 pm

Re: 2nd Cambridge International Open

Post by NickFaulks » Fri Feb 23, 2024 2:19 pm

Jon D'Souza-Eva wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:20 pm
I think the zero result for him in round 7 on chess-results.com is a mistake and will be corrected in due course.
It's the way chess-results treats byes. It is only a mistake if you believe that piece of software is a mistake.
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a QR code stamped on a human face — forever.