8th Jessie Gilbert Celebration Tournament, 24-29 August

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8th Jessie Gilbert Celebration Tournament, 24-29 August

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Thu Jun 11, 2015 11:17 am

Coulsdon Chess Fellowship once again announces the Jessie Gilbert Celebration tournament. Sections as follows:

Masters: Open to all. 11-round Swiss; one round on Aug 24, two on each of Aug 25-29. A strong enough field will be invited to make GM norms possible; 2014 European Senior Champion Keith Arkell is already signed up to play. G/90 + 30"/move.

English Seniors Championship: 5-round Swiss; one round per day, afternoons Aug 24-28. Open to English players born 1955 or earlier. 40/90 + G/30 + 30"/move. Three sections: Open, U-2000, U-1700.

Sections For All: Open to all players rated below 2200. One round per day; 4 rounds for the Morning tournament (Aug 25-28), 5 rounds for each of the Afternoon and Evening tournaments (Aug 24-28). G/75 + 30"/move. Also a weekender (Afternoon and Evening sessions) Aug 29-30, same time controls and entry limits.

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Re: 8th Jessie Gilbert Celebration Tournament, 24-29 August

Post by Brendan O'Gorman » Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:56 pm

Thought this could do with a bump. You can enter events here: http://www.ccfworld.com/Chess/Adult%20C ... b_info.htm
The older among us might like to note that there no fewer than three sections for seniors: open, u2000 and u1700. North Londoners should note that there are fast trains from Victoria and London Bridge to the zone 6 stations Coulsdon South and Coulsdon Town.

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Re: 8th Jessie Gilbert Celebration Tournament, 24-29 August

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:23 am

Indeed there are. (The usual recommendation is to get on the first fast train to East Croydon, and change there if your train is not going to Coulsdon.)

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Re: 8th Jessie Gilbert Celebration Tournament, 24-29 August

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Sun Aug 16, 2015 5:59 pm

Another bump. Note the strength of the title norm section. Excellent norm opportunities there!

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Re: 8th Jessie Gilbert Celebration Tournament, 24-29 August

Post by Brendan O'Gorman » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:37 pm

Some rejigging of sections has occurred to ensure each contains enough players. Only one seniors section now, but the u2000 non-age limited sections should now be viable. Details here: http://www.ccfworld.com/Chess/Results/2 ... 0_JGCI.htm

To enter one of the u2000 sections (morning, afternoon or evening) go here: http://www.ccfworld.com/Chess/Adult%20C ... s_info.htm

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Re: 8th Jessie Gilbert Celebration Tournament, 24-29 August

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Fri Sep 04, 2015 1:36 pm

Noting here that Bogdan Lalic won this event with 9/14 (though others could have gone past that score if all games were played):

http://www.ccfworld.com/Chess/Results/2 ... 0_JGCI.htm

Not sure what the story is behind the multiple games not played...

Clement Sreeves was playing and has just made his first post on this forum (welcome!).

Maybe he would be willing to say something about the event?

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Re: 8th Jessie Gilbert Celebration Tournament, 24-29 August

Post by Peter D Williams » Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:01 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:Noting here that Bogdan Lalic won this event with 9/14 (though others could have gone past that score if all games were played):?
Sometimes chess players withdraw for a number of reasons such as not being able to get a norm or gain rating points or can not win the event or are just not playing well. At Coulsdon Scott often asks players to let him know if you can not carry on in the event. so that he can re pair for those that want to play on.
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Re: 8th Jessie Gilbert Celebration Tournament, 24-29 August

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:13 pm

Peter D Williams wrote:
Christopher Kreuzer wrote:Noting here that Bogdan Lalic won this event with 9/14 (though others could have gone past that score if all games were played)
Sometimes chess players withdraw for a number of reasons such as not being able to get a norm or gain rating points or can not win the event or are just not playing well. At Coulsdon Scott often asks players to let him know if you can not carry on in the event. so that he can re pair for those that want to play on.
Maybe, but it seems strange. Withdrawing can affect the norm chances of others. I was idly wondering if Sreeves and Harvey got anywhere near an IM norm? Though getting my head around the regulations for a double-round APA norm tournament is not easy. I vaguely recall the regulations for that differ in key aspects to the regulations for a Swiss tournament.

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Re: 8th Jessie Gilbert Celebration Tournament, 24-29 August

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:28 pm

Sreeves's performance was of the standard required for a 12-round IM norm, but the tournament wasn't valid for norms because there weren't enough IMs/GMs in the tournament.

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Re: 8th Jessie Gilbert Celebration Tournament, 24-29 August

Post by Michael Flatt » Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:39 pm

Jack,
Have got any dates for next year and will you continue with the English Seniors?

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Re: 8th Jessie Gilbert Celebration Tournament, 24-29 August

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:40 pm

Thanks, Jack. Am still a bit confused. Have been trying to find "round robin" and "double round robin" in the relevant FIDE Handbook section:

https://www.fide.com/fide/handbook.html ... ew=article

But I can only find this: "Double round robin tournaments need a minimum of 6 players. An opponent’s title as in 1.45b – 1.45e shall be counted only once."

In theory, if the tournament had been double-round APA between just the six titled players, would that have been OK or not?

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Re: 8th Jessie Gilbert Celebration Tournament, 24-29 August

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:48 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:In theory, if the tournament had been double-round APA between just the six titled players, would that have been OK or not?
It would have been OK for IM norms, but not for GM norms, I think.

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Re: 8th Jessie Gilbert Celebration Tournament, 24-29 August

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:49 pm

Michael Flatt wrote:Jack,
Have got any dates for next year and will you continue with the English Seniors?
20-29 August. Whether we have the English Seniors next year as well is unclear.

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Re: 8th Jessie Gilbert Celebration Tournament, 24-29 August

Post by Alan Walton » Fri Sep 04, 2015 4:24 pm

I thought the tournament failed for norms under the foreigner rule with only 3 out of 8 players

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Re: 8th Jessie Gilbert Celebration Tournament, 24-29 August

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Fri Sep 04, 2015 4:42 pm

Alan Walton wrote:I thought the tournament failed for norms under the foreigner rule with only 3 out of 8 players
No, I think it was OK under the foreigner rule, because each game against a foreigner counts, even if you play the same foreigner more than once. Ditto the titled player rule. It's only the players-of-the-title-sought rule that it failed, because there you can only count any given opponent as one title holder, even if you play him twice.