Div 3 North 2016-17

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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby Alex McFarlane » Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:16 am

Mick Norris wrote:I expect 3Cs 3 have withdrawn from the weekend, and that a triangular match will be needed between the other 3 teams


That's correct. Software difficulties only allowed me to delete but not to put in a triangular match!!

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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby Nick Grey » Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:24 pm

What are the chances of snow & or transport disruptions on Saturday morning?

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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby Mick Norris » Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:58 pm

Nick Grey wrote:What are the chances of snow & or transport disruptions on Saturday morning?


It's the North, we'll deal with it :roll:

Bolton (yes, I know, the hotel is in Blackrod) forecast for Saturday is about 4 or 5 degrees, with rain; Sunday with rain again but 7 or 8 degrees; we're expecting snow and ice tomorrow and Friday
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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby MartinCarpenter » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:45 am

At best it might make Winter hill & the west pennine moors into a grand backdrop :) Suspect it won't even manage that though, as its a bit warm/quite a lot sun forecast for Friday/Saturday.

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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby Mick Norris » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:44 pm

Snow on the ground here in Harwood now, but yes might well have disappeared by Saturday afternoon in Blackrod
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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby Carl Hibbard » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:45 pm

Nothing in Evesham if we get it here it's everywhere.
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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby Mick Norris » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:59 pm

I called in this afternoon and it looks a reasonably decent set up, albeit not the biggest room

Good to see everyone managed to get there, and still amazing to me to see 4 Manticores teams playing; we have come a long way in a few years
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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby Alex McFarlane » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:52 pm

Mick Norris wrote:albeit not the biggest room


It is more the shape than the size! Weird ins and outs and 4 random columns made it difficult to get the matches in a line.

Almost an hour spent this morning rearranging tables to fit.

A better shape than last week's playing hall though.

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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby MartinCarpenter » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:58 pm

That's a truly serious Manchester first team too. Hold it around that strength and promotion should be at least a good shot.

Although I see that Manx have doubled down on their three titled players from last time out. Only 3/4 from their titled players boards vs Gonzaga though, so given Gonzaga's considerable strength in depth they might get another 3-3.

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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby Alex McFarlane » Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:27 pm

MartinCarpenter wrote:given Gonzaga's considerable strength in depth they might get another 3-3.


http://www.4nclresults.co.uk/2016-17/4ncl/3/3n/export/

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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby Mick Norris » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:23 pm

MartinCarpenter wrote:That's a truly serious Manchester first team too. Hold it around that strength and promotion should be at least a good shot


Nearly the best team we can field, so we will see; now the only team with a 100% record thanks in part to our 4th team's result today (pity about the 2nd and 3rd team); given that Enniscorthy are 3 - 0 down at half-time in 1 of their triangular matches this weekend

The pairings for weekend 3 will be interesting


P W D L GP Pts
Manchester Manticores 1 3 3 0 0 15 6
Hounds and Bears 3 2 1 0 12 5
Manx Liberty 3 2 1 0 11 5
Cheddleton 2 3 2 1 0 10½ 5
Gonzaga 3 2 0 1 13 4
Enniscorthy 2 2 0 0 7½ 4
Manchester Manticores 4 3 1 1 1 9 3
3Cs 2 3 1 1 1 9 3
Ashfield Breadsall 2 3 1 1 1 8½ 3
Spirit of Atticus B 3 1 1 1 7½ 3
Holmes Chapel 3 1 0 2 8 2
Ashfield Breadsall 1 3 1 0 2 7½ 2
Manchester Manticores 3 3 1 0 2 6½ 2
Bradford DCA Knights B 2 1 0 1 6 2
Jorvik 2 0 1 1 4 1
Manchester Manticores 2 3 0 0 3 6½ 0
Bradford DCA Knights C 3 0 0 3 5½ 0
3Cs 3 2 0 0 2 3 0
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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby Mick Norris » Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:28 pm

I assume there's a good reason why Roger Edwards is on board 1 for Cheddleton 2 today

Interesting match ups again today
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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby Alex McFarlane » Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:34 pm

Mick Norris wrote:I assume there's a good reason why Roger Edwards is on board 1 for Cheddleton 2 today


Late substitute for ill player.

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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby MartinCarpenter » Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:32 pm

Gently striking the next time someone wonders about 3N being an easy promotion route (as I vaguely did pre season!). This weekend there were 3 teams averaging 2170 and up over 6 boards(!). Basically 100 pts/board above anyone I can see in 3S.

Someone is going to end the year disappointed, although you can't imagine there being enough teams to keep teams that strong down in Div3 for any extended period of time.

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Re: Div 3 North 2016-17

Postby Roger de Coverly » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:30 pm

MartinCarpenter wrote:Gently striking the next time someone wonders about 3N being an easy promotion route


If you are a brand new team, you have to enter Division 4 or Division 3N. From that viewpoint, if geography is relatively unimportant, 3N is the easier option.

In Div 3S every team is essentially 6*2050 or equivalent.


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