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Sean Hewitt
PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:02 pm 
David Sedgwick wrote:
I live in hope that the Board will have terminated things by then, thus rendering this particular discussion redundant.


Hopefully. But given their reluctance to agree to this undertaking, I wouldn't bet on it. Of course, some new board members at the AGM may take a different view :D
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Carl Hibbard
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We don't seem to have heard very much recently about the thousands of sets that Holloid were supposed to be producing by the end of July, using their brand new machines. Have they actually manufactured any sets since the April Council Meeting?

Does anyone from the ECF have any more details they can share?

Adam?

Or of course Andrew Walker (the ECF webmaster) as he is responsible for this one now?

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John Upham
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Carl Hibbard wrote:
Does anyone from the ECF have any more details they can share?

Adam?

Or of course Andrew Walker (the ECF webmaster) as he is responsible for this one now?


I've just asked AW the following :

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Have their been any recent regular updates from Holloid Plastics?

I think the last weekly update was a couple of months ago?

Who sends them to you from HP?

All the best,

John

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Carl Hibbard wrote:
David Sedgwick wrote:
We don't seem to have heard very much recently about the thousands of sets that Holloid were supposed to be producing by the end of July, using their brand new machines. Have they actually manufactured any sets since the April Council Meeting?

Does anyone from the ECF have any more details they can share?

Adam?

Or of course Andrew Walker (the ECF webmaster) as he is responsible for this one now?


All I will say is that if you google this topic, you get (for instance) threads on moneysavingexpert.com asking questions from teachers such as 'Is this a scam?'

I think that says it all. I will be standing again, and won't be 'in favour' of CfS. But if somebody wants to produce sets, and we can help them distribute them to schools, why not? But we can't afford to spend anything more on projects like this. We need to make money, and streamline the processes we currently use to deliver the things that players want from the ECF - like grading.

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Adam Raoof wrote:
I will be standing again, and won't be 'in favour' of CfS. But if somebody wants to produce sets, and we can help them distribute them to schools, why not? But we can't afford to spend anything more on projects like this. We need to make money, and streamline the processes we currently use to deliver the things that players want from the ECF - like grading.


Glad to hear that, although producing the sets is only one part of the issue as we know only too well. The apparent failure of the instigators of the project to consider the costs and logistics of distributing sets to schools has been as much to blame for the disaster as the manufacturer's failure to produce the sets.

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Ljubica Lazarevic
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I was curious by Adam's post, so did a bit of Googling...

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/sho ... ?t=2534327
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/sho ... p?t=842747

Perhaps not the best form of marketing for English Chess...
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David Gilbert
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Malcolm Pein told the London League AGM that he is raising funds for a charity bringing chess (free chess sets and coaching) into schools in deprived areas - parts of London, Birmingham and Liverpool and elsewhere. He was also looking for chess coaches - with CRB clearance - to support that work. This is quite separate from any ECF initiative and anyone interested in coaching should contact Malcolm. Apologies if this is old news!?
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David Gilbert wrote:
Malcolm Pein told the London League AGM that he is raising funds for a charity bringing chess (free chess sets and coaching) into schools in deprived areas - parts of London, Birmingham and Liverpool and elsewhere. He was also looking for chess coaches - with CRB clearance - to support that work. This is quite separate from any ECF initiative and anyone interested in coaching should contact Malcolm. Apologies if this is old news!?

Please see viewtopic.php?f=29&t=1819&p=31404#p31404
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Carl Hibbard
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It's close to the end of July but I have no seen no further details on this project, anyone else got anything to report?

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Carl Hibbard wrote:
It's close to the end of July but I have no seen no further details on this project, anyone else got anything to report?


There is a Board Meeting in Canterbury on Saturday, conveniently, the 31st July. Deadline day. I'm sure it'll be discussed at that, along with British Championship stuff.

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Carl Hibbard
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Alex Holowczak wrote:
There is a Board Meeting in Canterbury on Saturday, conveniently, the 31st July. Deadline day. I'm sure it'll be discussed at that, along with British Championship stuff.

What happened with this one does anyone know?

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Carl Hibbard wrote:
What happened with this one does anyone know?


I would imagine that AR will update us shortly as to the outcome from the board meeting on this matter.

Maybe (of the entire board) only the CEO has any knowledge of the current state of affairs with CfS and HP?

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LozCooper
PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:05 pm 
Carl Hibbard wrote:
Alex Holowczak wrote:
There is a Board Meeting in Canterbury on Saturday, conveniently, the 31st July. Deadline day. I'm sure it'll be discussed at that, along with British Championship stuff.

What happened with this one does anyone know?


I wasn't at the Canterbury meeting so I can't help on this occasion. :oops:
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Let's hope this fiasco has not been allowed to continue?

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Ljubica Lazarevic
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Looks like the final nail in the coffin has been firmly installed... http://www.englishchess.org.uk/?p=6564
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