9 move checkmate

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Re: 9 move checkmate

Postby Peter D Williams » Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:33 pm

[quote="Stewart Reuben"]Peter Williams. did you realise you were saccing a pawn with 1 c4 e6 2 g3 d5 3 Bg2 c6 4 b3 as 4...dxc4 5 bxc4 Qd4 forks rook and pawn?

Hello Stewart

No i did not see i was giving away pawn after those moves i just had a look at it on my pocket set.I thought i was making really good moves in the opening playing like a grandmaster until he said checkmate! Peter said i got the move order wrong!

Some interesting quick wins members have posted on here.
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Re: 9 move checkmate

Postby Clive Blackburn » Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:31 pm

I just delivered checkmate in 5 moves in an online correspondence game, as black!
I think that must be a record for me, can anybody beat it?
My opponent played the Grob, which is pretty dangerous if you don't know the theory.

[Event "-- Under 2400 -- 3 days/move - Board 32"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "24/04/2012"]
[White "altuq (1337)"]
[Black "happy_loser (1612)"]

1.h4 e5 2.g4 d5 3.f3 Bc5 4.Nh3 Qxh4+ 5.Nf2 Bxf2# 0-1

I think I might soon need to change my user name from "happy_loser" to something more appropriate! :lol:
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Re: 9 move checkmate

Postby Michael Jones » Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:33 pm

I was on both sides of Scholar's Mate (or variants thereof) in school games, but the quickest mates I've had in competitive games were 17 moves (won) and 18 (lost - my opponent had missed a mate on move 16, but made no mistake the second time). I did once win a friendly game with 1. b4 e6 2. Bb2 Bxb4 3. Bxg7 1-0.

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Re: 9 move checkmate

Postby Peter D Williams » Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:04 pm

Clive Blackburn wrote:I just delivered checkmate in 5 moves in an online correspondence game, as black!
I think that must be a record for me, can anybody beat it?
My opponent played the Grob, which is pretty dangerous if you don't know the theory.

[Event "-- Under 2400 -- 3 days/move - Board 32"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "24/04/2012"]
[White "altuq (1337)"]
[Black "happy_loser (1612)"]

1.h4 e5 2.g4 d5 3.f3 Bc5 4.Nh3 Qxh4+ 5.Nf2 Bxf2# 0-1

I think I might soon need to change my user name from "happy_loser" to something more appropriate! :lol:


That is amazing to see in a postal chess game as you would expect less blunders. I wonder if that is the quickest win ever for a postal chess game.
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Re: 9 move checkmate

Postby Matt Mackenzie » Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:12 pm

Pretty sure it isn't.......

Not least because of that sneaky old "conditionals" trick - a few games have started 1d4, then Black replying "1......g6 2 any White reply Bg7. To which White unsportingly (but devastatingly) replies 2Bh6!!! - then 3Bg7 followed by 4Bh8 :lol: :lol:
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Re: 9 move checkmate

Postby Clive Blackburn » Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:19 pm

Yes Matt but those conditional moves don't usually lead to an actual checkmate.
I think it would be hard to better mate in 5; I couldn't believe it when he played 4.Nh3??
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Re: 9 move checkmate

Postby Peter D Williams » Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:02 pm

Clive Blackburn wrote:Yes Matt but those conditional moves don't usually lead to an actual checkmate.
I think it would be hard to better mate in 5; I couldn't believe it when he played 4.Nh3??



I agree can you ask the postal chess association if it is the quickest win that they know of?
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Re: 9 move checkmate

Postby Richard James » Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:09 pm

[Event "Correspondence"]
[Date "1944"]
[White "Ellinger"]
[Black "Revd Durrant"]
[Result "0-1"]
[PlyCount "10"]

1. e4 c5 2. Ne2 Nf6 3. e5 Nd5 4. c4 Nb4 5. Nbc3 Nd3# *

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Re: 9 move checkmate

Postby Jonathan Bryant » Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:44 pm

This was the first correspondence game I ever played on the internet.

[White "spinsterdish"]
[Black "JonathanB of London"]
[Result "0-1"]
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 c5 4. Ng1f3 Nb8c6 5. dxc5 Bf8xc5 6. Bc1g5 Qd8b6 7. h4 Bc5xf2 8. Ke1d2 Ng8e7 9. Bg5xe7 Qb6e3 0-1
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Re: 9 move checkmate

Postby Clive Blackburn » Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:53 pm

Peter it wasn't a postal game, it was on the internet with a time limit of 3 days per move - perhaps I used the word "correspondence" wrongly.
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Re: 9 move checkmate

Postby Clive Blackburn » Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:59 pm

Richard James wrote: [Event "Correspondence"]
[Date "1944"]
[White "Ellinger"]
[Black "Revd Durrant"]
[Result "0-1"]
[PlyCount "10"]

1. e4 c5 2. Ne2 Nf6 3. e5 Nd5 4. c4 Nb4 5. Nbc3 Nd3# *


Yes Richard's game is also 5 moves and it was a genuine Correspondence game as well!
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Re: 9 move checkmate

Postby Peter D Williams » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:15 am

Clive Blackburn wrote:Peter it wasn't a postal game, it was on the internet with a time limit of 3 days per move - perhaps I used the word "correspondence" wrongly.


yes i thought correspondance means postal game any way its still an amazing game as your opponent had plenty of time to look at his move before making it. Maybe he thought like i did that i was winning untill opponent says checkmate!
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Re: 9 move checkmate

Postby Alex Holowczak » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:29 am

Richard James wrote: [Event "Correspondence"]
[Date "1944"]
[White "Ellinger"]
[Black "Revd Durrant"]
[Result "0-1"]
[PlyCount "10"]

1. e4 c5 2. Ne2 Nf6 3. e5 Nd5 4. c4 Nb4 5. Nbc3 Nd3# *


I fell for that as a 12ish year old newcomer to the game... :oops:

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Re: 9 move checkmate

Postby John McKenna » Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:46 pm

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.Nf3 cd 4.Nd4 e5 5.Nb5 d5 (Kevitz's Gambit) 6.cd Bc5 7.d6 Ne4 8.Nc7+ Qc7 1-0 NN- Hodgson, Julian 1987 London 'Peace'
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Re: 9 move checkmate

Postby Gavin Strachan » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:17 pm

I once played in a tournament where I came second with 4/5. The one loss was in 9 moves, it wasn't checkmate just a late night cock up against a tough opponent.


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