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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:28 pm 
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I would like some help with forenames and ECF codes if known, for my list of competitors for 1st & 2nd Surrey Chess Congresses from 1975 and 1976.

Entry List for the 1975 Open
Entry List for the 1976 Open

Please also correct me if I've assumed the wrong names.

I will publish crosstables and prize winners shortly, so send me as much information as possible, so that I can update the lists. I'm also missing some grades from the data passed to me by Martin Cath, who was responsible for publishing the official results bulletin.

If anyone has entry forms from any years in the 70s I would love to see them.

Also, I have started an archive Congress Archive, which I hope to complete as I go along.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:57 pm 
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Paul Dupré wrote:
I would like some help with forenames and ECF codes if known, for my list of competitors for 1st & 2nd Surrey Chess Congresses from 1975 and 1976.


In the 1976 list

#14 DJ Rogers (Hammersmith) was always known as John
#22. F W EDGE of Wimbledon was Fred, I think
#29. D L MASSIE was David, I believe
#85. A HALL of Harrow was Arthur. He used to write letters to Chess and made it into Barden's Ruy Lopez book for a game with Penrose.
#95. P E WILLIAMS was Peter
#99. C E HILL was Clive
#110. R ALSTER was Robert
#131. P LORD was probably Peter R, still an active player http://www.ecfgrading.org.uk/?ref=208820E
#134. P J SHELLEY also Peter

In the 1975 list
#9. R EMERSON would be http://www.ecfgrading.org.uk/?ref=285686E (Roger)
#16. J M RIPLEY. The late John Ripley of Merseyside
#19. M J LIGHTFOOT Michael, I think
#82. R LOBO probably Richard
http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=401188


http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=401188


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:43 pm 
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Roger is correct about P Lord being Peter R. Also R B Wassell is known as Bruce listed as 148458J


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:49 pm 
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I think that R Sams 39 (1975) and 18 (1976) is Richard Sams, D Beer 89 (1975) is Douglas Beer and R Kane 127 (1976) is Robert (Bob) Kane.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:01 pm 
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Malcolm Lightfoot, not Michael.

I can probably provide you with some more as well. I'll have a look later.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:41 pm 
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Off the top of my head, from 1975:

Yes, D John Rogers is correct.

Louis A Edwards was usually known as Alan
Alan Bracher
Keith(?) Homeyard
David Raeburn
Malcolm(?) Lester
Graham Sandiford
Mike Tebb
Henry Herbst (about whom there's a strange story)
H Hakki I think later changed his name to Erdogan (ChessBase gives Hakan Erdogan but the FIDE rated player of that name was born in 1966.)
Mark Pagden (Michael in some sources but Mark according to his FIDE rating card)
Ian(?) Raindle
David Stewardson
Robert(?) Jacobs
Stan Brent
Henry(?) Karsten

I can probably find some more from various chess sources and BMD records if you want.

I note that my grade in 1975 was exactly the same as it is now.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:46 pm 
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1976

Miroslav Radojcic
Tim Parkes
Alan Westwood
Abraham Bernfield

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:15 pm 
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Richard James wrote:
Louis A Edwards was usually known as Alan .

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=121581


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:10 pm 
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Richard James wrote:
Off the top of my head, from 1975:

Keith(?) Homeyard
Malcolm(?) Lester
Ian(?) Raindle
Robert(?) Jacobs
Henry(?) Karsten

I note that my grade in 1975 was exactly the same as it is now.


I have changed all bar the question marked, if someone could agree with Richard...

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:11 pm 
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I can offer only a tiny snippet - I was in the same club (Metropolitan) as 'Amin' in the 1975 list. His first initial was 'A'. I think it stood for Ali, but not 100% sure.

I have happy memories of that congress as it was the first one in which I won a prize, albeit in the Minor section.


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Speaking as someone who was still almost decades away from being born when the first Surrey Congress was run, and so has rather little knowledge of how the grading system used to work, what do Q and F stand for in the grades of the time?

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Daniel Young wrote:
what do Q and F stand for in the grades of the time?


Q stands for Qualified and F, I think, for firm.

Q was 30 games in the most recent season, F 20 games in three (or something like that). I'd have to find an old mag or yearbook to be totally sure.


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Roger de Coverly wrote:
Daniel Young wrote:
what do Q and F stand for in the grades of the time?


Q stands for Qualified and F, I think, for firm.

Q was 30 games in the most recent season, F 20 games in three (or something like that). I'd have to find an old mag or yearbook to be totally sure.


Thanks.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:08 pm 
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In the early 80s (when I started playing) the NCCU had "A", "Q" and "Y" grades - in ascending order of games played.

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If that's the same G H Davies (no 75 in 1976) who was a top West of England junior in the early 60s, then his first name is Gordon.

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