July 2012 grading list now live
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July 2012 grading list now live
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Re: July 2012 grading list now live
My Jan 2012 grade was 160.
I have 18 games recorded for the Jul 2012 list at a grading performance of 167.
My new grade is 156.
I guess this can be right?
I have 18 games recorded for the Jul 2012 list at a grading performance of 167.
My new grade is 156.
I guess this can be right?
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It can. Whether it is or not, I have no idea; I'd need more data.Tim Spanton wrote:My Jan 2012 grade was 160.
I have 18 games recorded for the Jul 2012 list at a grading performance of 167.
My new grade is 156.
I guess this can be right?
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It is an A-grade, so it is "based on the 30 most recent games, all played in the latest 12 months". You have 18 games in the July 2012 list, 28 in the January 2012 list. Which 30 of those are used to get a grade of 156, I don't know, but it can probably be calculated. It will be the 18 from the July 2012 list, plus either 12 from the January 2012 list, or something else. If you go by date, it will be your Hastings games (9), your loss in the Kent League 2011-12 (1), your draw in the SCCU County Under 180 (1) and your loss to Marcus Osbourne in the SCCU County Open (1).Tim Spanton wrote:My Jan 2012 grade was 160.
I have 18 games recorded for the Jul 2012 list at a grading performance of 167.
My new grade is 156.
I guess this can be right?
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According to the published rules, yes it can. What they have probably done is take the last 12 games of your January 2012 performance. The last 9 of these was Hastings and that's a sea of red for you against opposition without particularly high grades.Tim Spanton wrote:My Jan 2012 grade was 160.
I have 18 games recorded for the Jul 2012 list at a grading performance of 167.
My new grade is 156.
I guess this can be right?
Actually that reveals something I didn't know. An event such as Hastings which straddles the cut off is put into the first part of the grading season. I think that's a bit sneaky and undesirable if, like FIDE, the ECF ever managed to get towards real time publication. It's also intensifies the differences between the national system and the international one if you put them out of sync. Under the FIDE system, the point of inclusion for Hastings would be determined by its completion date. On the new monthly system, this would be end January.
The ECF six monthly system is going to be much less stable. My own grade is a case in point. Instead of staying static at around 183, I had 49 * 175 for the first half, but an apparent career high of 40*193 for the second.
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Do you know why there was such a disparity between the two halves of the season? Have you looked at what it was like for previous seasons?Roger de Coverly wrote:The ECF six monthly system is going to be much less stable. My own grade is a case in point. Instead of staying static at around 183, I had 49 * 175 for the first half, but an apparent career high of 40*193 for the second.
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Hmm, so basically I stink and the grade's right. Thought so.
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I did some sums and it does seem low to meTim Spanton wrote:Hmm, so basically I stink and the grade's right. Thought so.
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Coming back to this again, if you look at Roger's grade progress:Roger de Coverly wrote: The ECF six monthly system is going to be much less stable. My own grade is a case in point. Instead of staying static at around 183, I had 49 * 175 for the first half, but an apparent career high of 40*193 for the second.
http://www.ecfgrading.org.uk/?ref=109494E&progress=1
There is volatility in the 1990s as well (you were graded 163 in 1998?). The volatility introduced by the half-year grading list looks, to this untrained eye, as less than the volatility caused by playing well some seasons and poorly other seasons... And you have had a rapidplay grade of 200, so its not like 193 is breaking the bank.
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The point is though, that most seasons it averages out. Back in 1975 I hit 190 with a first half at around 200 and a second half at 180.Christopher Kreuzer wrote: There is volatility in the 1990s as well (you were graded 163 in 1998?). The volatility introduced by the half-year grading list looks, to this untrained eye, as less than the volatility caused by playing well some seasons and poorly other seasons... And you have had a rapidplay grade of 200, so its not like 193 is breaking the bank.
The rapid-play grade is based on five games a season at a local Congress. I took a point or two from a fellow club member who was given a grade of something like 225 from the re-estimation process.
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OK, that explains the rapidplay grade of 200. Still doesn't explain the slowplay grade of 163... (Taking what you say to a logical conclusion, your 'true' grade is the average over many years - for you that is 176).Roger de Coverly wrote:The point is though, that most seasons it averages out. Back in 1975 I hit 190 with a first half at around 200 and a second half at 180.Christopher Kreuzer wrote: There is volatility in the 1990s as well (you were graded 163 in 1998?). The volatility introduced by the half-year grading list looks, to this untrained eye, as less than the volatility caused by playing well some seasons and poorly other seasons... And you have had a rapidplay grade of 200, so its not like 193 is breaking the bank.
The rapid-play grade is based on five games a season at a local Congress. I took a point or two from a fellow club member who was given a grade of something like 225 from the re-estimation process.
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A run of seriously poor results, particularly with the White pieces. The Trompovsky isn't the best choice of opening if you aren't playing well.Christopher Kreuzer wrote:[ Still doesn't explain the slowplay grade of 163...
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Well i was hoping for that for a bit of interest, but no, it's another stunningly dull grading list for me (my run of grades since some funny happenings in the mid noughties being 221, 222, 219, 219, 221, 222, 222...). In fact in my case i would have probably been a couple of points higher without the six monthly lists...Roger de Coverly wrote:
The ECF six monthly system is going to be much less stable. My own grade is a case in point. Instead of staying static at around 183, I had 49 * 175 for the first half, but an apparent career high of 40*193 for the second.
Still, at least i've still got a silly rapidplay grade to keep me amused.
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You are tenth in the country overall at rapidplay!Richard Bates wrote:Still, at least i've still got a silly rapidplay grade to keep me amused.