Cavendish-Wood Green (14/01/2016)

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Re: Cavendish-Wood Green (14/01/2016)

Post by Matthew Turner » Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:33 am

I seem to recall Magnus Carlsen turning out for his old club in the Norwegian second division a few years ago. I cannot find the details, but that would certainly take some beating.

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Re: Cavendish-Wood Green (14/01/2016)

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:40 am

http://en.chessbase.com/post/magnus-car ... -club-meet

April 2014. He played (and beat) GM Georgiev in a win in the 6-board match by Stavangar 3.5-2.5 over Nordstrand.

The Norwegian article (linked from the Chessbase article) goes into more details: it was a promotion match from the "1st division" to the "elite division".

Maybe the full match result is online somewhere? Not sure whether Stavanger stayed in the Norwegian "Elite Series" or not the following year. The suggestion that Carlsen might turn out to play for them again seemingly didn't happen.

Details might be here somewhere:

http://www.sjakk.no/

I think this is the table for the 2014-15 season after Stavangar got promoted:

http://www.sjakk.no/?page_id=4567

And Carlsen is listed here in the squad lists for the 2015-16 season:

http://www.sjakk.no/?page_id=4708

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Re: Cavendish-Wood Green (14/01/2016)

Post by carstenpedersen » Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:25 am

Well, the record listed in the original post didn't last long!

http://www.londonchess.org.uk/match_car ... n=20152016

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Re: Cavendish-Wood Green (14/01/2016)

Post by Andrew Martin » Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:56 am

I challenge Brian to raise the bar and field a side which has an average grading of 250+ per board. More challenging would then be to get them to find Wood Green on a map.

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Re: Cavendish-Wood Green (14/01/2016)

Post by LawrenceCooper » Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:54 am

Andrew Martin wrote:I challenge Brian to raise the bar and field a side which has an average grading of 250+ per board. More challenging would then be to get them to find Wood Green on a map.
If they fielded that team in the 4NCL then Guildford might have to work a bit harder for their 100% (albeit Barbican 2 gave them a scare in round 4 and hopefully Cheddleton & Barbican 1 can do likewise later in the season).

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Re: Cavendish-Wood Green (14/01/2016)

Post by MartinCarpenter » Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:19 am

It does seem a bit quixotic to be using it to overrun an evening league quite so badly, but its his money :)

Intriguing just how similar the max 12 board strength for 3C's and York over 12 boards would be to that Drunken knights team. +-1 average grade! Not sure how (m?)any other non 4NCL outfits there are that can get close to that.

These Wood Green teams are obviously something else!

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Re: Cavendish-Wood Green (14/01/2016)

Post by Mick Norris » Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:28 am

MartinCarpenter wrote:It does seem a bit quixotic to be using it to overrun an evening league quite so badly, but its his money :)

Intriguing just how similar the max 12 board strength for 3C's and York over 12 boards would be to that Drunken knights team. +-1 average grade! Not sure how (m?)any other non 4NCL outfits there are that can get close to that.

These Wood Green teams are obviously something else!
3Cs and York are real clubs with real teams, which I'm assuming from the comments of those down south is not the case with WG?

Why on earth spend money on this though? Just imagine how much good it could do using the money to set up norm tournaments, sponsor junior chess etc - or am I missing the point?
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Re: Cavendish-Wood Green (14/01/2016)

Post by MartinCarpenter » Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:40 am

A bit maybe :) I mean why make Guilford so outlandishly stronger than anyone else in the 4NCL? Or even, at a much lower level of expenditure!, why the extra players in White Rose over an entirely competitive purist Yorkshire team?

Its people who've got the money spare to do this sort of thing and want the prestige/titles etc.

The Wood Green guy clearly quite badly wants the London league title(s). Did also compete full on in the 4NCL for quite a while of course, maybe got bored/found it too expensive. It all goes to chess pro's in the end, so I guess its going to a good cause in that sense.

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Re: Cavendish-Wood Green (14/01/2016)

Post by Andrew Zigmond » Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:51 am

Gavin Strachan wrote:Well this result always made me crack up http://league.essexchess.org.uk/2006--2 ... h_212.html

Lawrence Trent playing a division 2 Essex League game on a Friday night down at Southend. Not too big a grading difference lol.
For reasons too complicated to explain we once had an American FM playing a couple of games for our B Team. While one game was against a 180 (and the game ended in a draw) the other ended up being against a 130 odd player.
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Re: Cavendish-Wood Green (14/01/2016)

Post by Alan Walton » Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:59 am

For the record, using our current active players (including Stephen Gordon & Alex Longson) 3Cs 12-board average would be approximately 205

We did have a 7-board average in a league game I think of 209 last season, ironically though we lost that match

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Re: Cavendish-Wood Green (14/01/2016)

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:39 am

carstenpedersen wrote:Well, the record listed in the original post didn't last long!

http://www.londonchess.org.uk/match_car ... n=20152016
For the record, the match scorecard with average grades of 207.9 vs 240.9.

London League Division One
Drunken Knights 1 vs Wood Green 1
Monday 8 February 2016

Wood Green had White on the odd-numbered boards.

IM Thomas E Rendle s226B 1/2-1/2 GM Luke J McShane es260
FM Peter Roberson s234A 0-1 GM Gawain CB Jones s252A
FM Daniel L Bisby s222B 1/2-1/2 GM Jahongir Vakhidov s252A
FM John R Richardson s216B 1/2-1/2 GM John M Emms s243B
FM Guillaume Camus s221D 0-1 GM Jon S Speelman s244C
John Merriman s213C 0-1 GM Tamas Fodor s239A
Albert Pi Pares s212C 1-0 GM Alexander Cherniaev s239A
Alexis M Harakis s204C 0-1 GM Stephen J Gordon s244C
FM Richard Black s200A 0-1 IM Richard G Pert s236A
Fabian Schlottmann es180 0-1 GM Neil R McDonald s233A
Carsten Pedersen s199A 1/2-1/2 IM Sophie Milliet s225B
Daniel J Young s168A 1-0 FM David L Haydon s224C

Congrats to Daniel Young on board 12 for overturning the largest grading difference on the night!

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Re: Cavendish-Wood Green (14/01/2016)

Post by LawrenceCooper » Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:44 am

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:Congrats to Daniel Young on board 12 for overturning the largest grading difference on the night!
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Re: Cavendish-Wood Green (14/01/2016)

Post by Stewart Reuben » Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:58 am

In the 1960s, Bojan Kurajica - then World Junior Champion - played Board 4 for Dulwich College Second Team. The opposiition didn't believe it when told. Presumably he was actually ineligible to play. He was staying with Ray Keene at the time.
I believe he won.

Brian Smith did not only the Wood Green captain, but also the London League secretary. He is determined to pass the Hampstead record of number of league victories. That will happen in a couple of years. Until then he doesn't want WG to be awarded the ECF Club of the Year.

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Re: Cavendish-Wood Green (14/01/2016)

Post by MartinCarpenter » Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:06 am

That explains it :) A perfectly noble ambition I think, even if the means to do so are slightly extreme!

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Re: Cavendish-Wood Green (14/01/2016)

Post by J T Melsom » Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:14 am

Can the ECF Club of the Year award be purchased then? Leaving aside the debate about what constitutes a club which has been covered in threads elsewhere, I understood the award to be made on the merits of the submissions made in the year in question. Who knows where Wood Green would stand in that respect?