Search found 436 matches

by Brian Valentine
Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:22 pm
Forum: Grading Debate
Topic: ECF Grading Proposals
Replies: 198
Views: 13485

Re: ECF Grading Proposals

I can only comment on the last two points. 3. I don't think one anecdote makes a rating system flawed. Nevertheless we are looking at whether there should be some cut off. GDPR is one issue. 4. This is not something we envisage. Organisers want the evidence for section limits. Brian Valentine Manage...
by Brian Valentine
Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:55 pm
Forum: Grading Debate
Topic: Don't Understand Grading Calculation
Replies: 28
Views: 1110

Re: Don't Understand Grading Calculation

Isn't Martin suggesting that the player moves up tp say 90th percentile when they start the game with the locational extra information and they drop to 73 when the addional information of the result becomes available? Incidently, the proposed monthly grading calculation will assume that a player wit...
by Brian Valentine
Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:26 pm
Forum: Grading Debate
Topic: Don't Understand Grading Calculation
Replies: 28
Views: 1110

Re: Don't Understand Grading Calculation

The calculation here is fairly straightforward, but difficult to justify. The iteration method will get to the average of opponent's grades plus 50; which as already pointed out gives 176. In the final iteration the 40 point limit is introduced so 7 of those results become 186 with the other being 1...
by Brian Valentine
Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:37 pm
Forum: Grading Debate
Topic: Specification for ECF LMS API ?
Replies: 44
Views: 2111

Re: Specification for ECF LMS API ?

I think I have enough extra information to give an update. Those in the know will have seen a consultation I have started with the graders about what should be held in the live player list. Suffice to say some good points have been made and I'm in discussions with various parties how to best meet th...
by Brian Valentine
Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:04 am
Forum: ECF Matters
Topic: British Championship Congress 2020
Replies: 89
Views: 5586

Re: British Championship Congress 2020 - Sections

but I do notice when I am playing a junior supposedly 3-400 points weaker than me but apparently around 100 points stronger, judged either subjectively during the game or more objectively by looking at their tournament performance. Justin, I have taken a look at the most egregious case among your o...
by Brian Valentine
Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:08 pm
Forum: Grading Debate
Topic: ECF Grading Proposals
Replies: 198
Views: 13485

Re: ECF Grading Proposals

Chris, I have been reluctant to join this debate while most of my current activity is around administration. However when you are thinking about manual entry to try out your system, I think I ought to add my own thoughts. I'd hate you to be too far into your adventure without considering the drawbac...
by Brian Valentine
Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:39 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Rating/grading bounds correlations
Replies: 28
Views: 2056

Re: Rating/grading bounds correlations

Brian, thank you for all the work that you have put into improving the grading system over many years, now, and good luck with the conversion to four digits (hugely overdue*) and monthly updates (one hopes this one is not a "Bridge too Far"). What would you suggest are suitable corresponding ECF bo...
by Brian Valentine
Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:03 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Rating/grading bounds correlations
Replies: 28
Views: 2056

Re: Rating/grading bounds correlations

We are in danger of going over old ground. We've certainly chronicled the work done in this thread: https://www.ecforum.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3994 Basically I started the discussion in 2012 as an interested observer then when I "volunteered" as grading manager, instituted a change after listeni...
by Brian Valentine
Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:21 pm
Forum: Grading Debate
Topic: July 2019 grades......
Replies: 71
Views: 5274

Re: July 2019 grades......

Jon Griffith deserves all the credit for overcoming the obstacles, so that the August update has been delivered in August.

Brian Valentine
Manager ECF Grading
by Brian Valentine
Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:01 pm
Forum: Grading Debate
Topic: July 2019 grades......
Replies: 71
Views: 5274

Re: July 2019 grades......

David,

The situation is fluid. We are considering some half-way house which might meet your needs.

It has long been quite clear that monthly grading cannot be progressed with the current software (or the existing support for graders).
by Brian Valentine
Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:19 pm
Forum: Grading Debate
Topic: July 2019 grades......
Replies: 71
Views: 5274

Re: July 2019 grades......

We had been working towards giving Nick an "I told you so moment", but it is not to be. Several people have been giving up their time to fix the problem, but even so we cannot publish till early next week. The issue has been outside our control and only emerged yesterday. We can only apologise for a...
by Brian Valentine
Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:44 pm
Forum: Grading Debate
Topic: ECF Grading Proposals
Replies: 198
Views: 13485

Re: ECF Grading Proposals

...Whether an ECF Elo rating including more results would work any better remains to be seen and may well hinge on the hack proposed for handling improving juniors. I'm taken aback by the elegant solution has been demoted to a "hack"! There are two other levers that give me confidence that the prop...
by Brian Valentine
Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:28 pm
Forum: Grading Debate
Topic: Specification for ECF LMS API ?
Replies: 44
Views: 2111

Re: Specification for ECF LMS API ?

I will pick up most of the requests/questions/ideas posted above as soon as possible. Also,I shan't be ignoring future posts. As I stated above the project is in a flux at this moment. I will respond when I can be more specific in my answers. I will be keeping graders and organisers up to date on th...
by Brian Valentine
Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:47 pm
Forum: Grading Debate
Topic: ECF Grading Proposals
Replies: 198
Views: 13485

Re: ECF Grading Proposals

Rightly or wrongly I had assumed that a lot of those who did not respond, didn't care much either way. I can't help with the actual numbers behind the percentages. I can confirm that the ECF did check for multiple responses. At most they could be counted on one hand, but it is likely that there were...
by Brian Valentine
Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:52 am
Forum: Grading Debate
Topic: Specification for ECF LMS API ?
Replies: 44
Views: 2111

Re: Specification for ECF LMS API ?

The ECF recognises that monthly grading will only work if we abolish much workload that graders do at present. We have to develop tools that can facilitate this desire. Brian, can I ask: what tools do you have in mind? Fair request! Given the resources we have, the new system will evolve rather tha...