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by Matthew Turner
Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:48 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Cheating in chess
Replies: 2588
Views: 210607

Re: Cheating in chess

I do think it would be very interesting to know what the lichess 'take' on Mr. Fred is; I feel it is impossible that there haven't been humans looking at him, given the number of reports that would have come in on this person. One of the things Mr LiChess said on Perpetual Chess was the number of r...
by Matthew Turner
Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:56 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Cheating in chess
Replies: 2588
Views: 210607

Re: Cheating in chess

Qc5 seems to have taken eleven seconds to play Well it would wouldn't it, because I have to realise my opponent hadn't played the move I expected, realise my knight was attacked, realise that there was no safe place to move it, evaluate whether is was worth grabbing a pawn with Nxa7 or getting a pa...
by Matthew Turner
Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:27 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Cheating in chess
Replies: 2588
Views: 210607

Re: Cheating in chess

... , our only criteria are going to be who gets caught and who doesn't .... That's not quite accurate. Our criteria is going to be who gets banned and who doesn't. Have Lichess really not had a look at Freddy and seen what he's up to? I doubt it. Much more likely is that they know (he's been 'caug...
by Matthew Turner
Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:14 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Cheating in chess
Replies: 2588
Views: 210607

Re: Cheating in chess

Jonathan Bryant wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:09 am
Matthew Turner wrote:
Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:37 am
Human observation of the games offers no credible explanation for the player's play.
But there is a credible explanation - he's deliberately losing.
Yes, but for what purpose?
by Matthew Turner
Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:19 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Cheating in chess
Replies: 2588
Views: 210607

Re: Cheating in chess

Ian, what you say is undoubtedly correct, but if you were in that position would you do it? Yes, if it continued after a warning. I'd also ask him why he was doing it. If there was some plausible, but flawed, reason then I'd tell him what an acceptable alternative would be, although I can't think o...
by Matthew Turner
Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:02 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Cheating in chess
Replies: 2588
Views: 210607

Re: Cheating in chess

If you were acting in a purely altruistic way, what would you do? The lichess Terms of Service say you're not allowed to do anything that they "would consider against the spirit of playing fairly in our community". They could reasonably say that deliberately playing badly, even if the motive wasn't...
by Matthew Turner
Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:37 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Cheating in chess
Replies: 2588
Views: 210607

Re: Cheating in chess

If anybody was wondering if Freddy is still plagued by mouse slips ... he is. No doubt 2 Bc4 was the intended move. [Event "Rated Blitz game"] [Site "https://lichess.org/o6igh9Cj"] [Date "2021.04.17"] [White "freddy1963"] [Black "jmonar"] [Result "0-1"] [UTCDate "2021.04.17"] [UTCTime "19:27:09"] [...
by Matthew Turner
Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:19 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Takeback requests in online games
Replies: 44
Views: 2029

Re: Takeback requests in online games

It is simple. You should never ask for a takeback, as a refusal often offends. I had thought of saying something similar. I think it is a reference to the sign you used to see in shops "Please don't ask for credit as refusal often offends" I don't think it is meant to be taken literally at face val...
by Matthew Turner
Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:16 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Takeback requests in online games
Replies: 44
Views: 2029

Re: Takeback requests in online games

Eric, Apologies I hadn't realised that you had linked to Lawrence's comment. I think most players accept that mouseslips are just part of the game and it is easiest just not to bother with takebacks. I think it is implicit that if you ask for takebacks then you should also accept (reasonable) ones a...
by Matthew Turner
Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:57 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Takeback requests in online games
Replies: 44
Views: 2029

Re: Takeback requests in online games

I think this comment from Lawrence Cooper re: The European Club Cup gives a pretty good answer to this question "At the captain's meeting it (allowing premoves) was put to a vote (along with auto queen) which resulted in 72% being in favour. The other vote was if to allow takeback requests. 80% vote...
by Matthew Turner
Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:06 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Cheating in chess
Replies: 2588
Views: 210607

Re: Cheating in chess

Alternatively, taking my other number being 3000 players with an average of 10 games each, this would take too long for the human team simply because there were 10 times as many suspects to investigate. Yes, but we know from looking at the Chess.com cheat numbers which are in the public domain that...
by Matthew Turner
Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:58 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Cheating in chess
Replies: 2588
Views: 210607

Re: Cheating in chess

Well if you have an automated system why would you design it to throw up 100 games for a human to look at if you knew they only needed to look at 10 (those numbers are for illustrative purposes only). You would simply modify the algorithm so it worked better.
by Matthew Turner
Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:45 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Cheating in chess
Replies: 2588
Views: 210607

Re: Cheating in chess

It makes no sense, but I was using Roger's numbers
by Matthew Turner
Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:03 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Cheating in chess
Replies: 2588
Views: 210607

Re: Cheating in chess

Matthew, you aren't rebutting my Lichess numbers, just coming up with what Chess.com claim. It's entirely possible that their claim is true but I've no greater reason to believe Chess.com than any other organisation with a product to sell. Furthermore, since neither platform wishes to disclose its ...
by Matthew Turner
Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:15 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Cheating in chess
Replies: 2588
Views: 210607

Re: Cheating in chess

Thanks to Matthew and Ian for drawing attention to that interview, where "40-50 people" was indeed mentioned and, later, "the majority of whom are volunteers". Apparently a couple of those people are IMs along with several FMs and NMs. The interviewee also confirmed what I imagine most of us believ...