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by JustinHorton
Sun May 31, 2020 8:53 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Some thoughts on anti-cheating systems
Replies: 188
Views: 3634

Re: Some thoughts on anti-cheating systems

Mick Norris wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 8:42 pm

I can't get away from the basic fact that for me now, playing chess is only ok when it is enjoyable
Not sure I'd ever play at all by that criterion
by JustinHorton
Sun May 31, 2020 8:08 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Some thoughts on anti-cheating systems
Replies: 188
Views: 3634

Re: Some thoughts on anti-cheating systems

Well, we would want to see if that was what actually happened.
by JustinHorton
Sun May 31, 2020 6:48 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Some thoughts on anti-cheating systems
Replies: 188
Views: 3634

Re: Some thoughts on anti-cheating systems

My guess is that every player currently capable of achieving an IM norm has played a great deal of meaningful chess with board and pieces, but I could be wrong. Also, what is true now may well not be true in the future. Indeed not. Which just means that assumptions we're making now, and procedures ...
by JustinHorton
Sun May 31, 2020 6:41 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Some thoughts on anti-cheating systems
Replies: 188
Views: 3634

Re: Some thoughts on anti-cheating systems

But there you have your answer (at least in part) - they will COME THROUGH without playing OTB, so you’ll still have a history where you can show a progression over time. For sure, but they'll have come through unmonitored, yes? Which may not make any difference, but are we sure about that? (And we...
by JustinHorton
Sun May 31, 2020 6:15 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Some thoughts on anti-cheating systems
Replies: 188
Views: 3634

Re: Some thoughts on anti-cheating systems

I only really raise this here because we assume that we can judge somebody's rough chess strength by looking at their FIDE grade (or ECF, or nationally or regionally issued Elo) and then we can make allowance for the type of chess being played, plus a large margin of error or what you will. But what...
by JustinHorton
Sun May 31, 2020 6:13 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Some thoughts on anti-cheating systems
Replies: 188
Views: 3634

Re: Some thoughts on anti-cheating systems

I think I’ve mentioned before that the UK Chess Challenge, which starts with something like 40,000 kids playing at the schools stage, often throws up some players who have only played casual games or online before. I think in general come the Giga Final and Terra Final stages, the more tournament e...
by JustinHorton
Sun May 31, 2020 6:11 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Some thoughts on anti-cheating systems
Replies: 188
Views: 3634

Re: Some thoughts on anti-cheating systems

Ian Thompson wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 6:08 pm
JustinHorton wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 4:20 pm
how strong the strongest players are who have never played competitively OTB.
This one did rather well when he started playing OTB - http://www.ecfgrading.org.uk/new/player ... de=327319C.
Maybe, but we're trying to discuss this without discussing that case, no?
by JustinHorton
Sun May 31, 2020 5:41 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Some thoughts on anti-cheating systems
Replies: 188
Views: 3634

Re: Some thoughts on anti-cheating systems

NickFaulks wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 4:56 pm
If by competitively you mean FIDE rated
No, I mean that they've not played locally-rated games either, that though they may have played casual games with a physical board and pieces, maybe at school or with a friend, they're otherwise pure internet players.
by JustinHorton
Sun May 31, 2020 4:20 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Some thoughts on anti-cheating systems
Replies: 188
Views: 3634

Re: Some thoughts on anti-cheating systems

Major events are limited to titled players so everyone has an established OTB history. Without wanting to divert this thread too much, this did lead me to wonder how strong the strongest players are who have never played competitively OTB. I am guessing the answer is still relatively weak, but I wo...
by JustinHorton
Sun May 31, 2020 11:49 am
Forum: International News
Topic: 2020 Lindores Abbey Rapid Challenge
Replies: 56
Views: 2634

Re: 2020 Lindores Abbey Rapid Challenge

What time's the kick-off tomorrow?
by JustinHorton
Sun May 31, 2020 9:43 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Media comments on chess
Replies: 3518
Views: 385466

Re: Media comments on chess

According to Spanish-language Wikipedia he played chess with his friend and comrade Juan Demarchi.
by JustinHorton
Sat May 30, 2020 6:09 pm
Forum: International News
Topic: 2020 Lindores Abbey Rapid Challenge
Replies: 56
Views: 2634

Re: 2020 Lindores Abbey Rapid Challenge

Which Nakamura wins.
by JustinHorton
Sat May 30, 2020 4:30 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Some thoughts on anti-cheating systems
Replies: 188
Views: 3634

Re: Some thoughts on anti-cheating systems

The significance of this case was that statistical methods alone, far from determining that he was a cheat, could not even put a probability on this being true. That's because all statistical methods of which I am aware rely on differences between actual outcomes and expected outcomes. In this case...
by JustinHorton
Sat May 30, 2020 4:20 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Some thoughts on anti-cheating systems
Replies: 188
Views: 3634

Re: Some thoughts on anti-cheating systems

John McKenna wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 4:16 pm
4NCL OTB is a social as well as a competitive team league.

4NCL O/l is an asocial and therefore highly likely to be more competitive than the OTB league.
What?
by JustinHorton
Sat May 30, 2020 4:18 pm
Forum: International News
Topic: 2020 Lindores Abbey Rapid Challenge
Replies: 56
Views: 2634

Re: 2020 Lindores Abbey Rapid Challenge

Naka's nose in front.