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by Roger de Coverly
Thu May 01, 2008 11:21 am
Forum: ECF Matters
Topic: Resignation Rumours
Replies: 259
Views: 25292

Re: Resignation Rumours

I think the Grading function if it is costing too much money (I am not sure this is true) could be out sourced to cut costs. According to the 2007 ECF yearbook "grading" shows an income of £6,961 and an expenditure of £17,688. There' s probably also some grading expenditure in the "Management Ser...
by Roger de Coverly
Thu May 01, 2008 10:40 am
Forum: ECF Matters
Topic: Resignation Rumours
Replies: 259
Views: 25292

Re: Resignation Rumours

The entry form you have, far from requiring £23 or £33 from you under such a scheme would simply require £10. Thats the current £13 minus the game fee you cost them by playing (six games at 48p per game). Ok I can accept the entry fee would be £10 instead of £13. My point was this was how thi...
by Roger de Coverly
Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:58 pm
Forum: ECF Matters
Topic: Resignation Rumours
Replies: 259
Views: 25292

Re: Resignation Rumours

You keep quoting a membership fee of £20 If you look at the Streatham & Brixton blog (as mentioned by Tom Chivers), there are some comments by Peter Sowray which mention £20. Existing game fee income was about £52000 in 2007, so you'd need about 2600 more members at £20 to replace it. You would...
by Roger de Coverly
Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:04 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Universal Membership Scheme
Replies: 26
Views: 4816

Re: Universal Membership Scheme

16th April Martin Regan The players and Council may deem after hearing all the arguments that even the thought of such a scheme is not to be contemplated. In which case, I will certainly invite the players to find a CEO who is more in tune with their thinking . I believe we were warned. It's an opin...
by Roger de Coverly
Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:31 pm
Forum: ECF Matters
Topic: Resignation Rumours
Replies: 259
Views: 25292

Re: Resignation Rumours

The reason I don't get a grade is because I only played 8 Games, you need to play 9 to get a grade.

Sure - I forgot that rule.

Nevertheless on the Yorkshire site it shows that you played 2 in 2006 and 22 in 2005 which would have given you a grade had your league paid game fee.
by Roger de Coverly
Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:00 pm
Forum: ECF Matters
Topic: Resignation Rumours
Replies: 259
Views: 25292

Re: Resignation Rumours

The ECF now runs the Yorkshire grading system (to keep it inline, but I don't know the details of that agreement) its just most are non members, some are MO members and a small hand full are direct. Well I've looked up your grade on the ECF website and it's blank even though you played 8 games. I t...
by Roger de Coverly
Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:36 pm
Forum: ECF Matters
Topic: Resignation Rumours
Replies: 259
Views: 25292

Re: Resignation Rumours

while other members of my club have played just five or six games. Yet we pay the same club membership fee. That's not 'pay as you play I think your debate is with your club and its treasurer. If you look into the financial details, you would probably find that your club pays league fees based on h...
by Roger de Coverly
Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:50 pm
Forum: ECF Matters
Topic: Resignation Rumours
Replies: 259
Views: 25292

Re: Resignation Rumours

I play in Yorkshire I believe from YCA committee people we have around 3 - 4,000 people play chess across the county that is about to jump to over 100,000. As a point of information, I have just checked the ECF online rating list and Yorkshire show up as 675 individual records, some of which are ra...
by Roger de Coverly
Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:35 pm
Forum: ECF Matters
Topic: Resignation Rumours
Replies: 259
Views: 25292

Re: Resignation Rumours

Our attempt to set up an MO in Nottinghamshire failed to persuade people that even £10 was acceptable ..... I suspect quite typical of views around the country. It comes back to the point of asking why the current board are anti pay as you play when it was a system that their predecessors introduc...
by Roger de Coverly
Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:09 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Playing Strength versus Rating Order
Replies: 4
Views: 911

Re: Playing Strength versus Rating Order

Another one of my bugbears is my belief that Captains should attempt to field teams in order of playing strength rather than strict rating order. Bizarrely in the world's premier team event (the Olympiad), they have to do neither! You get the team's best player down the order in an attempt to win a...
by Roger de Coverly
Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:21 pm
Forum: ECF Matters
Topic: Resignation Rumours
Replies: 259
Views: 25292

Re: Resignation Rumours

People who support the concept of game fee miss one vital element of the big picture - game fee acts as a deterrent to playing more chess (by making it more expensive). Well I don't know about that. By the time you've travelled to a weekend tournament, paid the entry fee and hotel accomodation an e...
by Roger de Coverly
Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:27 pm
Forum: ECF Matters
Topic: Resignation Rumours
Replies: 259
Views: 25292

Re: Resignation Rumours

a straw vote was taken at council which indicated a preference for the status quo/ game fee. Why resign now (at the start of a period of consultation)? Surely the thing to do is put forward your case and win support for it over the coming months? The board should have realised that if they wanted t...
by Roger de Coverly
Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:43 pm
Forum: ECF Matters
Topic: Resignation Rumours
Replies: 259
Views: 25292

Re: Resignation Rumours

the question should be - WHY HAVE THEY RESIGNED! Lets have the truth! I'm sure the resigning directors can speak for themselves as can the delegates who attended the council meeting. If I understand it correctly ( this comes from the chess NE1 forum) the council meeting was asked to consider the pr...
by Roger de Coverly
Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:04 pm
Forum: Grading Debate
Topic: The Arbitrary 40 point Rule
Replies: 9
Views: 2953

Re: The Arbitrary 40 point Rule

FIDE rating calculations have an equivalent rule that the maximum difference between players is treated as 350 points, I knew I should have looked it up! The FIDE 350 cut off is where the probability hits 90% - so under the international system a player rated 2350 (219) is expected to score 9-1 aga...
by Roger de Coverly
Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:51 pm
Forum: Grading Debate
Topic: The Arbitrary 40 point Rule
Replies: 9
Views: 2953

Re: The Arbitrary 40 point Rule

My point is how was the figure of 40 arrived (rather than 30 or 50) or pie**4 or some other random constant. It's the point at which the stronger player is supposed to score 90% or the weaker 10%. The word decile springs to mind for some reason. Actually it's probably Stewart Reuben's fault - I can...