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by Nigel_Davies
Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:11 pm
Forum: ECF Matters
Topic: ECF Vacancies
Replies: 124
Views: 10632

Re: ECF Vacancies

Martin Regan wrote: Is that meant to be a serious comment? Seriously? Have you not heard of Tradewise?
Tradewise was not brought in by a current ECF person.
by Nigel_Davies
Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:25 pm
Forum: ECF Matters
Topic: ECF Vacancies
Replies: 124
Views: 10632

Re: ECF Vacancies

Even the figures show it is ridiculous. As no extra money can be raised by the changes proposed above the ECF would still be run by a load of incompetent amateurs: you're not going to get any different applicants for the job because the job demands too much if unpaid. It is also far from clear what...
by Nigel_Davies
Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:34 pm
Forum: ECF Matters
Topic: ECF Vacancies
Replies: 124
Views: 10632

Re: ECF Vacancies

If the, um, transition went horribly wrong, would there be a plan B? Revert back to the old system and ask everyone to pay again? (Those who had got used to free stuff might not be willing to pay any more). When you look at the age demographic in UK chess there's a clear need for reform to try and ...
by Nigel_Davies
Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:07 pm
Forum: ECF Matters
Topic: ECF Vacancies
Replies: 124
Views: 10632

Re: ECF Vacancies

Presumably there is no bar to amateurs paying the membership though? Fifty to a hundred pounds is relatively little to an affluent club player but quite a bit to a student seeking the FM title. An 'international' membership should be open to everyone and they would thereby. Meanwhile your student w...
by Nigel_Davies
Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:51 pm
Forum: ECF Matters
Topic: ECF Vacancies
Replies: 124
Views: 10632

Re: ECF Vacancies

Event-level surcharges aren't really the issue under discussion here, Roger. You can always not enter a particular FIDE-rated event if it's charging you too much to do so. The issue is that a marginal cost of £50 having the right to enter FIDE-rated tournaments would probably be a huge disincentive...
by Nigel_Davies
Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:29 pm
Forum: ECF Matters
Topic: ECF Vacancies
Replies: 124
Views: 10632

Re: ECF Vacancies

Proposal 1) would appear to cost £56,900 + £46,968 + £13,000 = £116,868 (actual cost higher, as some members have bought 3 year membership and would need to be refunded years 2 or 3) You could end the 3 year offers and phase it in to coincide with these finishing, it might be difficult to issue ref...
by Nigel_Davies
Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:24 pm
Forum: ECF Matters
Topic: ECF Vacancies
Replies: 124
Views: 10632

Re: ECF Vacancies

1) Have FREE (yes FREE) basic membership, no game fee or anything. ECF grades are included. 2) Have an international membership for those who wish to play in FIDE rated tournaments and charge £50-£100 per annum. 3) PAYING members get voting rights on a one member one vote basis. That's effectively ...
by Nigel_Davies
Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:06 pm
Forum: ECF Matters
Topic: ECF Vacancies
Replies: 124
Views: 10632

Re: ECF Vacancies

Afterthought: Here's another way you might achieve a similar effect without major surgery: 1) Have FREE (yes FREE) basic membership, no game fee or anything. ECF grades are included. 2) Have an international membership for those who wish to play in FIDE rated tournaments and charge £50-£100 per annu...
by Nigel_Davies
Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:55 pm
Forum: ECF Matters
Topic: ECF Vacancies
Replies: 124
Views: 10632

Re: ECF Vacancies

@Nigel Davies, you appear to have a lot of ideas about the future direction of English Chess. Would you ever consider taking steps to put them into practise? Even if you personally don't have time to devote to a role, I wonder whether you know anyone and would be prepared to approach anyone who mig...
by Nigel_Davies
Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:50 pm
Forum: ECF Matters
Topic: ECF Vacancies
Replies: 124
Views: 10632

Re: ECF Vacancies

I take Nigel's point about a war zone but can he say with confidence that professionals would work together any better? At least one legendary spat springs to mind. If separation did occur I can foresee two structural problems. GMs and IMs would be able to play in properly organised closed tourname...
by Nigel_Davies
Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:56 pm
Forum: ECF Matters
Topic: ECF Vacancies
Replies: 124
Views: 10632

Re: ECF Vacancies

Thirty years ago, it might have been plausible, with sponsorship and Government support covering the British Championships and the international teams as well as supporting major tournaments such as Hastings and Lloyds Bank. Had such a separation taken place, the professional branch would long sinc...
by Nigel_Davies
Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:29 pm
Forum: ECF Matters
Topic: ECF Vacancies
Replies: 124
Views: 10632

Re: ECF Vacancies

I do think a shift to facilitating chess rather than charging for it would be a step in the right direction. The ECF gave that up years ago. The only real reason people buy memberships is that they wouldn't be allowed to play chess if they didn't. Game Fee is a form of temporary membership and reta...
by Nigel_Davies
Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:53 am
Forum: ECF Matters
Topic: ECF Vacancies
Replies: 124
Views: 10632

Re: ECF Vacancies

Nigel, We have met on a few occasions and I have always enjoyed talking with you and valued the encounters, but in this thread you do seem to be using quite provocative language. Firstly, a professional body will only come about if professionals organise it for themselves: you are in a position to ...
by Nigel_Davies
Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:45 am
Forum: ECF Matters
Topic: ECF Vacancies
Replies: 124
Views: 10632

Re: ECF Vacancies

Well you stated that membership "should increase". On the flip side increasing the pool of ungraded players devalues the product for graded players. You may well find then that organisers begin to insist on membership as a condition of entry. So your "voluntary" scheme becomes de facto compulsory b...
by Nigel_Davies
Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:11 am
Forum: ECF Matters
Topic: ECF Vacancies
Replies: 124
Views: 10632

Re: ECF Vacancies

I must be missing something obvious (assuming the last 4 years of changes in English chess administration haven't passed you by). Why are these legions of Game Fee-payers (playing less that a dozen games a year at most if they are not acting against their financial interests) going to decide to joi...