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by Chris Goodall
Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:33 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy
Replies: 180
Views: 8627

Re: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy

|I agree FIDE can't enforce rules that apply to everybody, but it can make up whatever rules it likes for its members (assuming it can get its members to agree to the necessary rule changes). So banning someone from playing chess is not possible, but banning them from playing in FIDE organised even...
by Chris Goodall
Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:05 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy
Replies: 180
Views: 8627

Re: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy

Do you think they were assisted the fact that Agon's online show was so grotesquely bad? Not really. Because you'd have had to subscribe to the Agon package in the first place to find out that you preferred chess24's. Not at all sure about that. I’m reminded of Simon Munnery’s line about a Chris Mo...
by Chris Goodall
Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:52 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy
Replies: 180
Views: 8627

Re: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy

So it does, in fact, come down to whether we approve of Agon and FIDE as organisations. (No-one is declaring themselves the sole authority on anything.) No, because CAS would ultimately decide; it isn't about approving of, or not, FIDE or AGON, it is about being able to enjoy watching chess and usi...
by Chris Goodall
Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:52 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy
Replies: 180
Views: 8627

Re: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy

I mean you can't just suddenly abstract an issue from a legal framework within which it has previously been determined, declare yourself the sole authority on the matter and ignore what's gone before. So it does, in fact, come down to whether we approve of Agon and FIDE as organisations. (No-one is...
by Chris Goodall
Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:11 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy
Replies: 180
Views: 8627

Re: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy

And if the passing spectator decides that they're not going to show you the moves unless you buy their newspaper, you would have no right to demand that the historical record of the moves be released into the public domain (saving you the cost of a newspaper). That the moves are "free" to the passi...
by Chris Goodall
Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:39 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy
Replies: 180
Views: 8627

Re: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy

On the contrary, that's always been the case. If a passing spectator happens to note the moves played in the Northumberland Championships, the organisers of that event have no rights to prevent the spectator doing what they wish with that historic record. If the spectator adds value by commenting a...
by Chris Goodall
Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:16 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy
Replies: 180
Views: 8627

Re: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy

That's tough, because the free use of game scores long pre-dates the existence of Agon; FIDE as well given the principle dates back to Victorian times. Right, but it's a red herring, because "free" has always been subject to other people' willingness to convert effort into added value by conveying ...
by Chris Goodall
Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:23 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy
Replies: 180
Views: 8627

Re: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy

That's tough, because the free use of game scores long pre-dates the existence of Agon; FIDE as well given the principle dates back to Victorian times. Right, but it's a red herring, because "free" has always been subject to other people' willingness to convert effort into added value by conveying ...
by Chris Goodall
Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:39 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy
Replies: 180
Views: 8627

Re: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy

Retransmitting moves on your own website that were received from the official broadcast may not be live, but, for chess broadcasting, it's as good as. If I wanted to watch a broadcast on a particular website because I liked their commentators, for example, it wouldn't bother me that there was a sli...
by Chris Goodall
Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:25 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy
Replies: 180
Views: 8627

Re: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy

Unless they're using extra-sensory perception, there's got to be a chain of communication that leads back to someone in the playing hall, who is therefore contributing to the organisation of the live broadcast. Simple enough, the moves as played are recorded on a website. If you want to discuss the...
by Chris Goodall
Fri Mar 16, 2018 11:24 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy
Replies: 180
Views: 8627

Re: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy

Your point does not elude me but its relevance does Chess game takes place in hall. Broadcaster sits in studio hundreds of miles away. How does broadcaster get hold of moves as they're being played? The American court judgement talks about "secondary sources". How do the secondary sources get hold ...
by Chris Goodall
Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:57 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy
Replies: 180
Views: 8627

Re: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy

"contributing to organization of unauthorized live move-by-move broadcast" - messaging the moves to your friend at chess24 as they're played would be contributing to their live move-by-move broadcast, no?
by Chris Goodall
Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:40 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy
Replies: 180
Views: 8627

Re: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy

Yes. FIDE would quite like it if we treated the facts represented by chess moves in the same manner as the fact of who wins Bake Off. They can't punish people in the courts for passing facts to the media, so this is how they're going to withdraw certain chess privileges from them instead.
by Chris Goodall
Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:20 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy
Replies: 180
Views: 8627

Re: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy

JustinHorton wrote:
Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:50 pm
But those people aren't its employees or contracted to it.
They've accepted the terms and conditions on the ticket by being in the playing hall.
by Chris Goodall
Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:46 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy
Replies: 180
Views: 8627

Re: Consultation on the Draft FIDE Live Moves Broadcasting Policy

No, it isn't. In the first place, it's not the law, and it's an argument that Agon have had available to them in several court judgements. So it's simply not their call to make. In the second place, were the media to discover who had won GBBO, and to publicise the fact, the show's owners couldn't d...