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Paolo, thank you for engaging in the discussion. Of the 2 suggestions you make, I certainly disagree with the second one (i.e. that individual members are unrepresented and I don't see that as a big issue). Council is made up of representatives of CCAs, Leagues, Congresses etc. Just about every ECF ...

Kevin Thurlow wrote: I thought OMOV stood for "One member one vote"? I hope most can accept that original comment by me was intended to be somewhat lighthearted. The primary objective I had in starting this thread was to explore concerns others were making over lack of democracy and representation....

David Robertson wrote:
Again

And again

And agai...........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

David, is it you or the half-bottle of red wine that's sending me to sleep?

Gerry Jeeps wrote: Picking up, however, on Julie's analogy between Council delegates and MPs there is at least one important difference. MPs are not allowed to turn up in the Chamber with a pocket full of proxy votes. Although some delegates are very assiduous in canvassing local opinion and are pr...

Roger de Coverly wrote; ...the original scheme was modified so as to continue to sting the FIDE rated players. The most expensive chess you can play at a per game level is to be a nominated member of a 4NCL squad and just play one game in the 4NCL all season. Admittedly there is an ECF Director's pr...

OK folks, I have my tin hat on. Continuing discussion on points raised a couple of days ago on the "ECF demands more money" thread, but starting a new thread as I think this is a much wider discussion. Appearing to argue against OPOV (go on, humour me - stop calling it OMOV!) democracy or the notion...

.... "OMOV is an obvious one"

Now I'm feeling disenfranchised!

Chris Rice wrote: I can't see how you can say its democratic when the universe that they represent didn't vote for them. It's effectively a Board/Council appointment. Chris, are you making a distinction between the Direct Members Representatives, who currently make up 8 out of 319 Council votes, or...

We basically have the same concerns that we didn't feel properly represented which has clearly been exacerbated by the almost total lack of communication from the powers that be at the ECF. That, Chris, is a rather different point and not one I disagree with. This extends not only to Board Minutes ...

Julie Denning wrote: On this supposed "taxation without representation" what are you doing about it!!? If you don't think those who are meant to represent you .... . Jonathan Bryant wrote: With respect, you have clearly not understood the point being made. I did not refer specifically to anyone but...

Regarding what the proposed additional income would go towards, the detailed budget data has appeared overnight on the ECF website. From this I see that (in round numbers) net income from membership fees in 2015 / 16 is budgeted to increase by £23k over 2014 / 15. Game fee income is predicted to rem...

I volunteered to take the minutes at the Board and Council meetings held on 12th April. Write-ups of those meetings (2 x ECF, 2 x BCF) were all submitted to the Board within 10 days of the meetings.