Division Three South 2018-19

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Neil Graham
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Division Three South 2018-19

Post by Neil Graham » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:39 am

Opening a new topic for each Division for the forthcoming season.

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Re: Division Three South 2018-19

Post by Neil Graham » Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:19 pm

There seems to be substantial comment on every other division but nothing on Div Three South at all.

Anyway here is how I view the positions going into Round Seven

Division Three Pool 'A' - Any of the top six teams could still theoretically qualify for the Promotion pool; Cambridge Univ 2 and CSC2 have already booked their places in the Relegation Pool

Division Three Pool 'B' is a lot clearer with Surbiton & Oxford 2 in the Promotion pool whilst Iceni 2, The Rookies & Sussex Martlets destined for the relegation pool. The other three teams fight it out in Round Seven to decide their positions.

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Re: Division Three South 2018-19

Post by Nick Grey » Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:50 pm

CSC1 are looking at knocking Surbiton off top spot in round 7 which will put us in an excellent position.
We are also looking at getting CSC2 & also in Four CSC3 out to play. April is not far away!

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Re: Division Three South 2018-19

Post by Nick Burrows » Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:18 pm

If anyone wonders if the league is competitive, all 4 of the promotion pool matches were poised at 2.5 - 2.5 with a final game in play!

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Re: Division Three South 2018-19

Post by Neil Graham » Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:50 am

To update this:-

Qualifiers from Group A were ;- Check Innmates 1 (10); Kings Head (10), Fermented Sharks (8); Iceni 1 (7)
Relegation Pool :- Leeds Old Boys (7); MK Phoenix (6) join CSC2 & Cambridge Univ 2.

The board difference between Iceni and Leeds OBs was 20-19; Leeds manage to carry forward three losses into the relegation pool!

Qualifiers from Group B were :- Surbiton, CSC1, Oxford 2 & Rhyfelwyr Essyllwg who all finished with nine points. Remaining teams into relegation pool.

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Re: Division Three South 2018-19

Post by Ian Thompson » Tue May 07, 2019 10:32 am

Neil Graham wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:50 am
Qualifiers from Group A were ;- Check Innmates 1 (10); Kings Head (10), Fermented Sharks (8); Iceni 1 (7)
Relegation Pool :- Leeds Old Boys (7); MK Phoenix (6) join CSC2 & Cambridge Univ 2.

The board difference between Iceni and Leeds OBs was 20-19; Leeds manage to carry forward three losses into the relegation pool!
... and Leeds University Old Boys get relegated.

They seem to have paid a heavy price for two board defaults in the preliminary section. They were docked two half game points for this. If they'd had players for these two games and those players had lost, they'd have been level with Iceni on game points, and, by my reckoning, would have gone into the promotion pool on tie-break. Instead of being in the relegation pool with 0 points carried forward, they'd have been in the promotion pool with 6 points carried forward.

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Re: Division Three South 2018-19

Post by Nick Burrows » Tue May 07, 2019 12:16 pm

Ian Thompson wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 10:32 am

... and Leeds University Old Boys get relegated.

They seem to have paid a heavy price for two board defaults in the preliminary section. They were docked two half game points for this. If they'd had players for these two games and those players had lost, they'd have been level with Iceni on game points, and, by my reckoning, would have gone into the promotion pool on tie-break. Instead of being in the relegation pool with 0 points carried forward, they'd have been in the promotion pool with 6 points carried forward.
I like this current league system as it adds some dynamism to proceedings, but this case highlights it's negative aspects. It feels very harsh that Leeds get relegated, they certainly were not one of the worst 4 teams.

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Re: Division Three South 2018-19

Post by Ian Thompson » Tue May 07, 2019 5:48 pm

Nick Burrows wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 12:16 pm
It feels very harsh that Leeds get relegated, they certainly were not one of the worst 4 teams.
Definitely not, with 50% over the season as a whole (4 wins, 3 draws, 4 losses) despite finishing 15th out of 16.

That might be compared with Cambridge University 2 who managed 4 wins and 7 losses, but avoided relegation.

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Re: Division Three South 2018-19

Post by Mark Taylor » Thu May 09, 2019 1:32 pm

Ian Thompson wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 10:32 am
Neil Graham wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:50 am
Qualifiers from Group A were ;- Check Innmates 1 (10); Kings Head (10), Fermented Sharks (8); Iceni 1 (7)
Relegation Pool :- Leeds Old Boys (7); MK Phoenix (6) join CSC2 & Cambridge Univ 2.

The board difference between Iceni and Leeds OBs was 20-19; Leeds manage to carry forward three losses into the relegation pool!
... and Leeds University Old Boys get relegated.

They seem to have paid a heavy price for two board defaults in the preliminary section. They were docked two half game points for this. If they'd had players for these two games and those players had lost, they'd have been level with Iceni on game points, and, by my reckoning, would have gone into the promotion pool on tie-break. Instead of being in the relegation pool with 0 points carried forward, they'd have been in the promotion pool with 6 points carried forward.
Hello Ian. Thanks for the sympathetic assessment of our season. Actually, it's even worse than you say. Had we edged into the Promotion Pool we would actually have carried forward 7 points and been leading it, having beaten Kings Head, Check Inn Mates 1 and Fermented Sharks, who finished 1st, 2nd and 3rd in the final table, and drawn with Iceni 1. Thus we scored 7/8 against the teams who finished above us and 0/6 against the teams who finished below us. Of course we only have ourselves to blame.

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Re: Division Three South 2018-19

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Thu May 09, 2019 7:20 pm

Mark Taylor wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 1:32 pm
Had we edged into the Promotion Pool we would actually have carried forward 7 points and been leading it
Impressive, seeing as one only carries forward the results of three matches.

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Re: Division Three South 2018-19

Post by Mark Taylor » Sat May 11, 2019 1:33 pm

IM Jack Rudd wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 7:20 pm
Mark Taylor wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 1:32 pm
Had we edged into the Promotion Pool we would actually have carried forward 7 points and been leading it
Impressive, seeing as one only carries forward the results of three matches.
Oops. I should have read the rules.

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