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Tim Spanton
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4NCL Down?

Post by Tim Spanton » Sun Jan 05, 2025 12:11 pm

Anyone else having trouble with the site?
Since yesterday, on both my mobile and laptop, I've been getting:

This site can’t be reached
Check if there is a typo in www.4ncl.co.uk.

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Re: 4NCL Down?

Post by Joey Stewart » Sun Jan 05, 2025 3:42 pm

It's not just you, seems like the whole website is down - perhaps their host server has problems or, better yet, they are doing a full site rebuild.

One thing I would really like, which I find is rather elusive, would be an archive section of previous season results to be able to peruse.
maybe also a little database section, as they must now have many thousands of games from all the league and congresses which amounts to a pretty high percentage of top level chess played in the UK and seems a shame to bury.
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Re: 4NCL Down?

Post by Reg Clucas » Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:06 pm

Joey Stewart wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 3:42 pm

maybe also a little database section, as they must now have many thousands of games from all the league and congresses which amounts to a pretty high percentage of top level chess played in the UK and seems a shame to bury.
There are (or were!) past seasons' PGNs available on the site.

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Re: 4NCL Down?

Post by John Upham » Sun Jan 05, 2025 7:15 pm

A cursory glance using a single ISP suggests a routing issue suggesting a DNS lookup issue.

I don't, off the top of my head, know the IP address either so cannot circumvent the potential DNS resolution issue.

Suggested resolution: as Genesis would say, Turn the Internet off and on again and try once more.

C:\Users\user>tracert www.4ncl.co.uk
Unable to resolve target system name www.4ncl.co.uk.
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Re: 4NCL Down?

Post by Paul Cooksey » Sun Jan 05, 2025 7:26 pm

4NCL twitter wrote:Many apologies, the 4NCL website is temporarily down and we’re actively working to resolve the issue with our service provider. Thank you for your patience.

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Re: 4NCL Down?

Post by Neil Graham » Sun Jan 05, 2025 9:16 pm

This is especially annoying as I have no idea of the strength of opposition for forthcoming Saturday/Sunday fixtures and also the amended FIDE/ECF ratings of my own squad which will affect team selection.

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Re: 4NCL Down?

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sun Jan 05, 2025 9:45 pm

Joey Stewart wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 3:42 pm
It's not just you, seems like the whole website is down - perhaps their host server has problems or, better yet, they are doing a full site rebuild.

One thing I would really like, which I find is rather elusive, would be an archive section of previous season results to be able to peruse.
maybe also a little database section, as they must now have many thousands of games from all the league and congresses which amounts to a pretty high percentage of top level chess played in the UK and seems a shame to bury.
Assuming the site reappears that option is there. I often browse through previous seasons, I think you can go back to around 2010. You can either view them by scrolling back through the main menu/news or there was a drop down arrow "archive" from the menu. I forget which column though. There is/was a download area for accessing games.

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Re: 4NCL Down?

Post by Joey Stewart » Sun Jan 05, 2025 10:06 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 9:45 pm
Joey Stewart wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 3:42 pm
It's not just you, seems like the whole website is down - perhaps their host server has problems or, better yet, they are doing a full site rebuild.

One thing I would really like, which I find is rather elusive, would be an archive section of previous season results to be able to peruse.
maybe also a little database section, as they must now have many thousands of games from all the league and congresses which amounts to a pretty high percentage of top level chess played in the UK and seems a shame to bury.
Assuming the site reappears that option is there. I often browse through previous seasons, I think you can go back to around 2010. You can either view them by scrolling back through the main menu/news or there was a drop down arrow "archive" from the menu. I forget which column though. There is/was a download area for accessing games.

I know you can download the pgns, I once even downloaded every single season and amalgamated them into a massive personal UK database but I had to use my own software to actually search them to find specific players or positions otherwise it's just a very long list to scroll though.
The previous seasons is tricky to find, I know it's definitely not under the drop down menu so presumably it's hidden away in archive pages of the site that you have links for to save time scrolling?
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Re: 4NCL Down?

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sun Jan 05, 2025 10:10 pm

Joey Stewart wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 10:06 pm
LawrenceCooper wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 9:45 pm
Joey Stewart wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 3:42 pm
It's not just you, seems like the whole website is down - perhaps their host server has problems or, better yet, they are doing a full site rebuild.

One thing I would really like, which I find is rather elusive, would be an archive section of previous season results to be able to peruse.
maybe also a little database section, as they must now have many thousands of games from all the league and congresses which amounts to a pretty high percentage of top level chess played in the UK and seems a shame to bury.
Assuming the site reappears that option is there. I often browse through previous seasons, I think you can go back to around 2010. You can either view them by scrolling back through the main menu/news or there was a drop down arrow "archive" from the menu. I forget which column though. There is/was a download area for accessing games.

I know you can download the pgns, I once even downloaded every single season and amalgamated them into a massive personal UK database but I had to use my own software to actually search them to find specific players or positions otherwise it's just a very long list to scroll though.
The previous seasons is tricky to find, I know it's definitely not under the drop down menu so presumably it's hidden away in archive pages of the site that you have links for to save time scrolling?
When it re-appears I'll remind myself how exactly to find them.

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Re: 4NCL Down?

Post by Mark Adams » Mon Jan 06, 2025 2:59 pm

You can still access the registration pages.

https://www.4nclresults.co.uk/2024-25/m ... glist.html

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Re: 4NCL Down?

Post by LawrenceCooper » Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:45 pm

Joey Stewart wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 10:06 pm
LawrenceCooper wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 9:45 pm
Joey Stewart wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 3:42 pm
It's not just you, seems like the whole website is down - perhaps their host server has problems or, better yet, they are doing a full site rebuild.

One thing I would really like, which I find is rather elusive, would be an archive section of previous season results to be able to peruse.
maybe also a little database section, as they must now have many thousands of games from all the league and congresses which amounts to a pretty high percentage of top level chess played in the UK and seems a shame to bury.
Assuming the site reappears that option is there. I often browse through previous seasons, I think you can go back to around 2010. You can either view them by scrolling back through the main menu/news or there was a drop down arrow "archive" from the menu. I forget which column though. There is/was a download area for accessing games.

I know you can download the pgns, I once even downloaded every single season and amalgamated them into a massive personal UK database but I had to use my own software to actually search them to find specific players or positions otherwise it's just a very long list to scroll though.
The previous seasons is tricky to find, I know it's definitely not under the drop down menu so presumably it's hidden away in archive pages of the site that you have links for to save time scrolling?
Now the site is back online I was able to check.

https://4ncl.co.uk/data/history/news-1.htm You have to scroll down but I see 2023-24, 2022-23 & 2021/22 on page 1.
https://4ncl.co.uk/pgn-replay.htm for all the downloadable games.

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