Div 3 North 2019-20

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Mick Norris
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Div 3 North 2019-20

Post by Mick Norris » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:27 pm

Welcome to Euwe's North Sea Tigers

Division 3n Confirmed Fees paid
1 3Cs 2
2 Bolton and Worsley
3 Bradford DCA Knights A
4 Bradford DCA Knights B
5 Bradford DCA Knights C
6 Cheddleton 2
7 Euwe's North Sea Tigers y y
8 Holmes Chapel
9 Jorvik
10 Manchester Manticores 2
11 Manchester Manticores 3
12 Manchester Manticores 4
13 Manx Liberty 2 y
14 Shropshire 1 y
15 Shropshire 2 y
16 Spirit of Atticus B y y

I'm expecting there to be 4 Manticores teams, but a final decision has yet to be made
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Re: Div 3 North 2019-20

Post by Mick Norris » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:36 am

We now have 15 teams confirmed and paid

If Bolton & Worsley make it 16 it would be good
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Re: Div 3 North 2019-20

Post by Mick Norris » Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:12 am

Final version

Division 3n Confirmed Fees paid
1 3Cs 2 y y
2 Bolton and Worsley y y
3 Bradford DCA Knights A y y
4 Bradford DCA Knights B y y
5 Bradford DCA Knights C y y
6 Euwe's North Sea Tigers y y
7 J'Adoube 1 y y
8 J'Adoube 2 y y
9 Jorvik y y
10 Manchester Manticores 2 y y
11 Manchester Manticores 3 y y
12 Manchester Manticores 4 y y
13 Manx Liberty 2 y y
14 Shropshire 1 y y
15 Shropshire 2 y y
16 Spirit of Atticus B y y
16 16

Which would make it simple if all teams were going to play all 5 weekends, but they're not, so not so easy
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David Robertson

Re: Div 3 North 2019-20

Post by David Robertson » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:43 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:12 am
Which would make it simple if all teams were going to play all 5 weekends, but they're not, so not so easy
Easy enough, no? Two Pools again, A & B. If defaults or withdrawals come, they'll likely be in rd 8-11 and affect only Pool D. Or have I missed something?

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Re: Div 3 North 2019-20

Post by Mick Norris » Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:21 pm

We had a team default last season in weekend 4 so that would muck up the final pool matches
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David Robertson

Re: Div 3 North 2019-20

Post by David Robertson » Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:40 pm

Yes, that could knacker things rather. But what to do? Teams have a duty of care, both to the set-up they join; and to each other, to ensure an orderly competition. If they can't manage that, no one else can manage it for them

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Re: Div 3 North 2019-20

Post by Mick Norris » Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:30 pm

Absolutely

The problem is the pairings for the final weekend when last year we knew in advance that Manx 2 were missing

Keeping enough triangular pairings for the last 3 rounds is almost impossible in those circumstances when other teams might miss a day too
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Re: Div 3 North 2019-20

Post by MartinCarpenter » Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:25 pm

Any idea who J'Adoube are?

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Re: Div 3 North 2019-20

Post by David Robertson » Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:25 pm

MartinCarpenter wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:25 pm
Any idea who J'Adoube are?
Cheddleton 2 & Holmes Chapel, in some form merged. Or not

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Re: Div 3 North 2019-20

Post by MartinCarpenter » Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:32 pm

Thanks. That's logical enough :)

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Re: Div 3 North 2019-20

Post by Mick Norris » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:44 am

David Robertson wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:25 pm
MartinCarpenter wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:25 pm
Any idea who J'Adoube are?
Cheddleton 2 & Holmes Chapel, in some form merged. Or not
Might be challenging for a promotion spot then

There seems to be a wider spread of ability than last season, or am I just imagining that?
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Re: Div 3 North 2019-20

Post by MartinCarpenter » Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:46 pm

Overall? Surely not - we've lost the really strong team(s) from some earlier years.

Maybe one or two more weaker ones, depending quite where everyone lands up.

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Re: Div 3 North 2019-20

Post by Mick Norris » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:48 am

Maybe, although we are in the unusual position of retaining a team that finished in a promotion place; we also have the return of Bradford A, who appear to have been promoted every year they have played in this division?

J'adoube 1 should be stronger than average too; and J'adoube 2 slightly weaker too, and with the return of Shropshire 2 there's another potentially weaker team; will be interesting to see how Bolton & Worsley are after this summer's arguments, and how strong Manx 2 are on the weekends they play

Looking forward to seeing Euwe too
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Re: Div 3 North 2019-20

Post by MartinCarpenter » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:38 am

Bradford A really weren't that strong in Div2 last year, although likely to be a little stronger back on home ground.

We'll find out :) No idea who'll get promotion. I'm not sure if there's even one team who you'd say really want it this time round.

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Re: Div 3 North 2019-20

Post by Mick Norris » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:50 am

I know what you mean; we definitely want MM2 promoted, but have some strong players who only don't want to travel to play in Div 2

3Cs 2 and Shropshire 1 both have tried hard and been a little unlucky; it never looked like Cheddleton 2 would make it, but J'Adoube 1 might
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