Division 4 South - 2019-20

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Division 4 South - 2019-20

Post by Roger Lancaster » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:46 am

Watford Chess Club entered the 4NCL in 2017-18 and followed up with a second team last year. If there's anyone out there in the Herts/Bucks/Beds/NWLondon area who is interested in joining a local club with a view to playing in 4NCL, please get in touch - you can PM me. We'd be particularly (but not exclusively) interested in ECF160+ players to reinforce our first team and give it a chance of escaping from Division 4

[Watford club membership splits approximately 40% adult, 60% junior, so we're receptive to approaches irrespective of age].

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Re: Division 4 South - 2019-20

Post by Roger Lancaster » Sat Oct 26, 2019 11:16 pm

Provisional seedings announced as:

Division 4
1 CSC 2
2 Iceni 2
3 Sussex Martlets 2
4 The Full Ponty
5 Celtic Tigers 2
6 Throw in the Tal
7 Poisoned Pawns - Next Gen
8 Fischer's Catch
9 MK Phoenix 2
10 Warwickshire Select 2
11 West is Best 3
12 Ashfield 2
13 Wood Green Youth
14 All Anands on Deck
15 Watford 1
16 War and Piece
17 Celtic Tigers 3
18 Oxford 4
19 Banbury Bulldogs
20 CSC 3
21 Sussex Martlets 3
22 Wessex C
23 Barnet Knights 2
24 The Pitstop
25 Iceni 3
26 Cambridge University 3
27 Warwickshire Select 3
28 Wessex D
29 Surbiton 2
30 Watford 2
31 Crowthorne 2
32 Barnet Knights 3
33 Barnet Knights 4

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Re: Division 4 South - 2019-20

Post by Phil Neatherway » Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:52 am

It seems there will also be an Oxford 5 team!

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Re: Division 4 South - 2019-20

Post by Roger Lancaster » Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:09 am

Phil Neatherway wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:52 am
It seems there will also be an Oxford 5 team!
And there I was, thinking that teams had to enter by 27 September. No need to rush to meet this deadline in future years?

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Re: Division 4 South - 2019-20

Post by Phil Neatherway » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:14 am

I thought that too, I've no idea how this works.

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Re: Division 4 South - 2019-20

Post by Roger de Coverly » Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:33 am

Phil Neatherway wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:14 am
I thought that too, I've no idea how this works.
Perhaps Oxford 5 have agreed to be the "C Arbiter" team. In other words, they only play if there would otherwise be an odd number, thus avoiding triangular matches where possible.

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Re: Division 4 South - 2019-20

Post by Roger Lancaster » Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:03 am

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:33 am
Perhaps Oxford 5 have agreed to be the "C Arbiter" team. In other words, they only play if there would otherwise be an odd number, thus avoiding triangular matches where possible.
Perhaps, but that's not the issue for me. I can't speak for others but our season begins in September. That makes September an already busy month - AGM, appointment of match captains, etc - and in our case the local league started 30 September and the first J4NCL was a week later, both of which needed advance preparation. At the same time, we're being asked to enter 4NCL teams [and, sometimes, that means reaching a decision between N and N+1 teams which means doing a careful check on available team members] by 27 September, even though the first round isn't until November. Obviously that's not impossible as almost all of us manage it but it does put a strain on resources - if the Oxford example indicates that it's an unnecessary strain, perhaps the question could be revisited.

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Re: Division 4 South - 2019-20

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Re: Division 4 South - 2019-20

Post by Roger Lancaster » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:42 pm

Following email just sent:

"9:39 PM (0 minutes ago)
"to David, Mark, Matthew

"I may be wrong but there's a strong rumour that, although Watford 2 have been included in the draw, Watford 1 are omitted."

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Re: Division 4 South - 2019-20

Post by Roger de Coverly » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:11 pm

Roger Lancaster wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:42 pm
"I may be wrong but there's a strong rumour that, although Watford 2 have been included in the draw, Watford 1 are omitted."
and a triangular match as a consequence? But are any other teams omitted?

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Re: Division 4 South - 2019-20

Post by Roger Lancaster » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:21 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:11 pm
Roger Lancaster wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:42 pm
"I may be wrong but there's a strong rumour that, although Watford 2 have been included in the draw, Watford 1 are omitted."
and a triangular match as a consequence? But are any other teams omitted?
Only 31 teams out of 34 are included in the published draw. Either two teams aren't competing, in which case the need for a triangular match disappears and this may or may not affect the other pairings or just one team isn't competing but one pairing is inadvertently omitted from the published draw. No reply yet to my email so it's guesswork at present although I imagine we'll learn soon enough.

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Re: Division 4 South - 2019-20

Post by Roger Lancaster » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:25 pm

Just heard - there's a missing pairing, Barnet Knights 4 v Watford 1.

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Re: Division 4 South - 2019-20

Post by Alex Holowczak » Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:23 pm

Roger Lancaster wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:25 pm
Just heard - there's a missing pairing, Barnet Knights 4 v Watford 1.
Which has now been added.

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Re: Division 4 South - 2019-20

Post by Roger Lancaster » Tue Jan 07, 2020 3:44 am

Round 3 [Saturday, 2.0]

41 The Full Ponty- - -Sussex Martlets 2
42 Warwickshire Select 2- - -Wood Green Youth
43 Fischer's Catch- - -CSC 2
44 War and Piece- - -Watford 1
45 Cambridge University 3- - MK Phoenix 2
46 Ashfield 2- - -CSC 3
47 Crowthorne 2- - -Iceni 3
48 Wessex C- - -Oxford 4
49 The Pitstop- - -West is Best 3
50 All Anands on Deck- - -Poisoned Pawns - Next Generation
51 Throw in the Tal- - -Iceni 2
52 Wessex D- - -Celtic Tigers 2
53 Sussex Martlets 3- - -Banbury Bulldogs
54 Barnet Knights 2- - -Watford 2
55 Barnet Knights 4- - -Surbiton 2
56 Celtic Tigers 3- - -Barnet Knights 3

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Re: Division 4 South - 2019-20

Post by Nick Grey » Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:54 pm

Yes that is nice. Let's hope not a single default on any board over the weekend. That's not too much is it?
War and Piece with the up float.

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