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It does look like Anglian Avengers should have enough to be first amongst equals, probably not winning every match unless they have a really good season.Mick Norris wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:31 amI assume it will be tightly contested, given at the first weekend only 1 team won both matches, and only 1 lost both
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Withdrawing from an all-play-all tournament is just crazy, highly disruptive and disrespectful to all the other teams. Guildford have a second team in Division Four - what is happening to that? Surely if there are problems they could withdraw their second team for the weekend and fill up any vacancies in Team 1. Division Four has had several teams not turning up for a weekend but the Swiss system effectively negates the consequences of this. I already envisage problems about relegation from Division Three West after Wessex failed to show up for Weekend One - how this one is sorted I have no idea.Roger Lancaster wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:52 pmJust learnt from Alex McFarlane that Guildford Castles have withdrawn from Division 3 East.
A second email from Alex suggests there may be "a solution". Fingers crossed!Neil Graham wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:01 pmWithdrawing from an all-play-all tournament is just crazy, highly disruptive and disrespectful to all the other teams. Guildford have a second team in Division Four - what is happening to that? Surely if there are problems they could withdraw their second team for the weekend and fill up any vacancies in Team 1. Division Four has had several teams not turning up for a weekend but the Swiss system effectively negates the consequences of this. I already envisage problems about relegation from Division Three West after Wessex failed to show up for Weekend One - how this one is sorted I have no idea.Roger Lancaster wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:52 pmJust learnt from Alex McFarlane that Guildford Castles have withdrawn from Division 3 East.
Yes, situation here - for those unaware of it - is that all GC's results have been voided (although the individual game results will, of course, count towards ECF and FIDE rating) and that only one of the remaining 11 teams is liable to be relegated. It's unfortunate, as Neil mentioned earlier, when one competitor drops out part-way through an all-play-all competition although, not knowing the reasons, I'm reluctant to condemn.Neil Graham wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:18 pmI see that all Guildford Castles results have been deleted and there are no pairings for them this weekend.
We don't know the reason but my previous comments apply. Guildford Young Guns play in Division Four. Why can't they be moved up to replace the other team thus avoiding the maximum disruption this withdrawal means? It seems ridiculous that a Guildford team will be playing on Saturday/Sunday whilst Division Three East opponents have to sit out a round possibly having booked accommodation and this becomes even more problematic in the final three rounds when someone will have games in Round Nine and Round Eleven and be left twiddling their thumbs on Sunday.Roger Lancaster wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:06 amYes, situation here - for those unaware of it - is that all GC's results have been voided (although the individual game results will, of course, count towards ECF and FIDE rating) and that only one of the remaining 11 teams is liable to be relegated. It's unfortunate, as Neil mentioned earlier, when one competitor drops out part-way through an all-play-all competition although, not knowing the reasons, I'm reluctant to condemn.Neil Graham wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:18 pmI see that all Guildford Castles results have been deleted and there are no pairings for them this weekend.
There is no fair solution. Yours would mean that six teams faced "strong Guildford" while the other five face "weak Guildford".Neil Graham wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:51 pmWhy can't they be moved up to replace the other team thus avoiding the maximum disruption this withdrawal means?
The obvious question is why the 4NCL has not adopted the standard practice of letting the results of the 6 matches that were played stand and giving the 5 remaining teams walkovers.NickFaulks wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:07 pmThere is no fair solution. Yours would mean that six teams faced "strong Guildford" while the other five face "weak Guildford".Neil Graham wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:51 pmWhy can't they be moved up to replace the other team thus avoiding the maximum disruption this withdrawal means?
"when someone will have games in Round Nine and Round Eleven and be left twiddling their thumbs on Sunday". Organisers have had the good sense to arrange, since those rounds are played in Milton Keynes, that the "someone" is the MK Phoenix team where travel and hotel costs presumably aren't a major issue.Neil Graham wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:51 pmWe don't know the reason but my previous comments apply. Guildford Young Guns play in Division Four. Why can't they be moved up to replace the other team thus avoiding the maximum disruption this withdrawal means? It seems ridiculous that a Guildford team will be playing on Saturday/Sunday whilst Division Three East opponents have to sit out a round possibly having booked accommodation and this becomes even more problematic in the final three rounds when someone will have games in Round Nine and Round Eleven and be left twiddling their thumbs on Sunday.Roger Lancaster wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:06 amYes, situation here - for those unaware of it - is that all GC's results have been voided (although the individual game results will, of course, count towards ECF and FIDE rating) and that only one of the remaining 11 teams is liable to be relegated. It's unfortunate, as Neil mentioned earlier, when one competitor drops out part-way through an all-play-all competition although, not knowing the reasons, I'm reluctant to condemn.Neil Graham wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:18 pmI see that all Guildford Castles results have been deleted and there are no pairings for them this weekend.