Female Player Rule

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Re: Female Player Rule

Post by Ola Winfridsson » Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:44 pm

Yes, div. III is Fide-rated too.

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Re: Female Player Rule

Post by Geoff Chandler » Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:50 pm

Cheers.

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Re: Female Player Rule

Post by Mike Truran » Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:00 pm

Geoff, we've also announced our dates for the 2010/2011 season (November 2010-May 2011) already, which is hopefully sufficiently far out to allow other events to avoid clashes if they want to (and the Northern League dates are planned to be the same as the "main" 4NCL dates, so we won't be taking any more weekends over and above those already planned for the "main" 4NCL.

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Re: Female Player Rule

Post by Brian Valentine » Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:12 pm

Given the original title of this thread, maybe 4NCL should have an experimental rule for the Northern League. Every team should have at least one Scotsman in it.

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Re: Female Player Rule

Post by Carl Hibbard » Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:25 pm

Brian Valentine wrote:Given the original title of this thread, maybe 4NCL should have an experimental rule for the Northern League. Every team should have at least one Scotsman in it.
It does make a round expensive for the rest of the team though?
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Re: Female Player Rule

Post by Alex McFarlane » Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:21 pm

Wearing a kilt does not make you female. :lol:

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Re: Female Player Rule

Post by Carl Hibbard » Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:26 pm

Alex McFarlane wrote:Wearing a kilt does not make you female. :lol:
I expected Geoff to be first but sadly I was mistaken :oops:
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Re: Female Player Rule

Post by Geoff Chandler » Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:54 pm

Hi Carl.

Needed a Scot to answer that one, I'm English. a cockney.

Right I have had a wee nibble from Clem Sreeves but the rest of them are fearing
a Chandler wind up or me having a pop at them and are hiding.

Perhaps I'm not the best guy to do this. (I reap what I sow).

Been dying to have a tangle with Clement since he put that 'z' in his surname.
Who does he think he is, Karpov, Kasparov, Vukovic?

But I'll let it past.

Right need Location and cost.

Don't link me as chess players are lazy and they never chase links.
(they get Fritz to do it for them).

And if I go to the site I'll only see something and get all heated up again.

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Re: Female Player Rule

Post by Michele Clack » Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:14 pm

Back to the female player rule. I've never been a fan of 'positive discrimination' because there must of necessity be negative discrimination against those displaced, unless of course the displaced men were of of lower grade than the women let in. This doen't seem to be the case here. I can understand the argument about changing the culture and there may be something in that. The problem is that there just don't seem to be many women playing chess so that leaves very few to pick from.

I always assumed that there must be more women playing down south but a few years ago I was in a Worcestershire U100 team that reached the national finals and of the team of 12 three of us were women. We were the only women playing that I could see, it was a very big room. I believe one of the open teams should have had a female player but she was one of a group who got stuck in a motorway queue and didn't make it.

I'm surprised they find as many women players as they do in the 4NCL.

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Re: Female Player Rule

Post by Ben Purton » Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:05 pm

I know people dislike when I am blunt but I believe a strong reason why women dont continue is the general men at chess making the enviroment weird.

Personal Hygiene and strange types make the 4NCL which filters out MOST of this more desirable to our superior yet fairer counterparts.

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Re: Female Player Rule

Post by Alex Holowczak » Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:25 pm

How do you define "strange types"?

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Re: Female Player Rule

Post by Ben Purton » Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:47 pm

Where to begin...
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Re: Female Player Rule

Post by Rob Thompson » Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:30 pm

Ben Purton wrote:Where to begin...
Preferably with an answer?
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Re: Female Player Rule

Post by Peter Rhodes » Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:42 pm

Ben Purton wrote:I know people dislike when I am blunt but I believe a strong reason why women dont continue is the general men at chess making the enviroment weird.

Personal Hygiene and strange types make the 4NCL which filters out MOST of this more desirable to our superior yet fairer counterparts.

Ben

I understand Ben's point, and I think it's understandable why he chose to be indirect with his recent reply.

Chess has a large amount of neurodiversity. I use that term in the ideological sense and not the strict medical sense.
There are always going to be people who prefer a more homogeneous environment and who feel uncomfortable travelling in wider circles.

That doesn't bother me one bit - as Castro said "we don't need them, we don't want them". Let them stay in their narrow world.
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Re: Female Player Rule

Post by Michele Clack » Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:17 pm

Well in any large group of people there will always be a few odd types but most of the men who play chess seem pretty normal and unobjectional to me so I don't see that putting women off playing. Part of the reason may be the time factor. Even in this day and age it is well documented that women do more than half of household chores and have less time for their own pursuits. This still doesn't explain the almost complete lack of women players. I play golf as well and that is time consuming. At my golf club there are about 80 or 90 women members to about 600 men. We are still outnumbered but not by such a huge margin as in chess.

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