4NCL 2010-11 season ups and downs

[LozCooper]

4NCL 2010-11 season final weekend 30th April - 2nd May

Congratulations to the following winners in the 2010-11 season:

Division One: Championship Pool: Pride & Prejudice
Division One Demotion Pool: Wood Green Hilsmark Kingfisher 2
Division Two Promotion Pool: Jutes of Kent
Division Two Demotion Pool: South Wales Dragons
Division Three: Bradford DCA Knights A
Division Three Northern League: Bradford DCA Knights A

The following teams were promoted and relegated:

Division One relegation: Oxford, Pandora’s Box, Sambuca Sharks & Warwickshire Select.

Division Two promotion: Jutes of Kent, Anglian Avengers, Bristol & Guildford 2.

Division Two relegation: Cambridge University 2, 3Cs, Sambuca Black Sheep and Poisoned Pawns 2.

Division Three promotion: Bradford DCA Knights A, Spirit of Atticus, Brown Jack and FCA Solutions.

[Roger de Coverly]

Division Two relegation: Cambridge University 2, 3Cs, Sambuca Black Sheep and Poisoned Pawns 2.
Division Three promotion: Bradford DCA Knights A, Spirit of Atticus, Brown Jack and FCA Solutions.

Is it known what happens if any of the winning division 3 teams decline promotion?

[LozCooper]

Division Two relegation: Cambridge University 2, 3Cs, Sambuca Black Sheep and Poisoned Pawns 2.
Division Three promotion: Bradford DCA Knights A, Spirit of Atticus, Brown Jack and FCA Solutions.

Is it known what happens if any of the winning division 3 teams decline promotion?

I think I've read on other threads that the "relegated" teams stay up.

[David Robertson]

The matter will not be tested following this season's outcome

[Mike Truran]

As I understand it it's academic as David says, but it's worth correcting the misunderstanding that seems to have arisen on other threads about relegated teams staying up. See 4NCL rules 11.1 and 11.4.

[Brian Valentine]

Mike,
I think this below is the post to which Loz was referring. Are you inferring that declining promotion is different, or we have misread the rules or just confirming the source?

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On a serious note though if all 4 did declined promotion and the teams finishing 5th-8th took the promotion slots, would these teams really be good enough for the 2nd Division, firstly the couldn't out perform 4 of their rivals so do they deserve it, and secondly would this adversely affect the overall strength of the 2nd Division


The point is that they probably wouldn't be promoted anyway. These are the relevant extracts from the 4NCL rules:

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11.1 Four teams will be relegated from Division 1, four teams will be promoted from Division 2, four teams will be relegated from Division 2 and four teams will be promoted from Division 3/the Northern League.

11.4 Once the requirements of rule 11.1 have been fulfilled, in the event that existing teams decide not to renew their entries teams in the relevant division that would otherwise have been relegated at the end of the season will not be relegated (starting with the relegated team finishing in the highest position, and so on down the relegated teams). In the event that the number of teams not renewing their entries exceeds the number of relegated teams, extra teams will be promoted from the lower division after applying the provisions in the first section of this rule, and so on down the divisions as necessary.

[Mike Truran]

Rule 11.1 states that four teams are promoted from Div 3/NL. Rule 11.4 states that rule 11.4 only kicks in once the requirements of 11.1 have been met.

[Brian Valentine]

That's clarified things - thanks.