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Re: 4NCL 2012 RapidPlay Weekend

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 6:29 pm
by Matthew Turner
Perfectly fine day at School thank you. I assume that is your attempt to avoid the point that I am making.

Re: 4NCL 2012 RapidPlay Weekend

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 6:50 pm
by Mike Truran
If I understood the point you were trying to make it might help. Why does it 'make things easier for the players' to know more than four months in advance whether the event is going to be FIDE rated when the entry guidelines haven't even been published yet?

Anyway, since as far as I can see you weren't even one of 'the paying customers' at either of the last two rapidplays, and have given no hint so far that you plan to play in the next rapidplay either, I don't quite see why you're getting so exercised about it.

Re: 4NCL 2012 RapidPlay Weekend

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:04 pm
by Matthew Turner
You can register the 4NCL with Scotland or Wales for FIDE rating and then people can choose to play or not, join the ECF or not. No need to check memberships for the arbiters, no need to worry about joining for the players. You keep complaining about the rules imposed on the 4NCL by the ECF, this seems to be a perfect solution.

Re: 4NCL 2012 RapidPlay Weekend

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:11 pm
by Mike Truran
Maybe it would be helpful if someone like Alex McFarlane, who as a native Scot probably knows what he's talking about, offered his views on the subject.

Re: 4NCL 2012 RapidPlay Weekend

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:16 pm
by Matthew Turner
Great idea, I hope you get the chance to talk to Alex soon.

Re: 4NCL 2012 RapidPlay Weekend

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:44 pm
by Mike Truran
Anyway......Andrew - hopefully you got most of what you wanted to know before the thread collapsed in a heap. Feel free to email me if you want anything else.

Re: 4NCL 2012 RapidPlay Weekend

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 10:29 pm
by Alex McFarlane
Sorry just back from a chess AGM.

I think Roger has already provided the figures on a different thread.

In the past Chess Scotland has been reluctant to get involved in English politics and would (probably) have refused to step on the ECF's toes. That feeling has changed considerably recently and I do not envisage a problem. I would be willing to submit the grading data to Chess Scotland.

Re: 4NCL 2012 RapidPlay Weekend

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 10:50 pm
by Paul Cooksey
Alex McFarlane wrote:In the past Chess Scotland has been reluctant to get involved in English politics and would (probably) have refused to step on the ECF's toes. That feeling has changed considerably recently and I do not envisage a problem.
Good grief.

Re: 4NCL 2012 RapidPlay Weekend

Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 7:48 am
by David Sedgwick
Alex McFarlane (in another thread) wrote:Perhaps if the Board had agreed to a mediation process other matters would not have had to be raised at Council. There is some hope that progress might soon be made on that matter. (Apologies for being so cryptic, hopefully all will be revealed soon.)
Alex McFarlane wrote:In the past Chess Scotland has been reluctant to get involved in English politics and would (probably) have refused to step on the ECF's toes. That feeling has changed considerably recently and I do not envisage a problem. I would be willing to submit the grading data to Chess Scotland.
Am I being unfair in suggesting that there is a degree of inconsistency between those two comments?

Sorry for going somewhat off-topic.

Re: 4NCL 2012 RapidPlay Weekend

Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 8:49 am
by Alex McFarlane
Yes you are!

I think you are making the assumption that relationships between CS and the ECF only revolve around the results following the prizegiving at the British. That is not the case.
I currently submit 2 English events to CS for grading and have done for a number of years.