First 4NCL

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First 4NCL

Post by Joey Stewart » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:01 pm

So..... what do people have as predictions for this 4ncl? I am back in division 3, so was wondering who people think might be the top teams to watch out for this year.
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Post by John Upham » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:09 pm

I'm hoping that the BCM Rhinos might do quite well but good luck to all the BCM teams.

The BCM Dragons will have their work cut-out this weekend in Division one.
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Post by Andrew Bak » Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:16 am

It's going to be hard to look beyond Guildford or Wood Green for the Div 1 title again. Guildford seem to have strengthened by recruiting Gawain Jones, Mark Hebden and Robin van Kampen (from White Rose, Cheddleton and Sambuca Sharks)

Division 3 - I guess you have to start by considering the relegated Div 2 teams - Bradford Knights A, Brown Jack, Cambridge Uni 2 and FCA Solutions 1. They all seem to have squads that will be there or thereabouts at the end of the running.

Having a quick look through the registrations, other strong contenders would seem to be Hackney, Sussex Smart Surviviors 1 and Ashfield-Breadsall (a new team I think?)

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Post by Carl Hibbard » Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:30 am

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Re: First 4NCL

Post by Andrew Camp » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:23 pm

Lorin D'Costa and Karl Mah draw after eight moves.

Fantastic stuff.
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Re: First 4NCL

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sun Nov 04, 2012 1:13 am

Andrew Camp wrote:Lorin D'Costa and Karl Mah draw after eight moves.

Fantastic stuff.
That explained their appearance in the bar in time for most of the second half of the football :o

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Post by John Upham » Sun Nov 04, 2012 1:18 am

LawrenceCooper wrote: That explained their appearance in the bar in time for most of the second half of the football :o
This result did cause a certain cascade of mirth in the Whitley/Mandela Suite. I was just getting round to take their pictures when they signed the score sheets and left the playing room!
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Re: First 4NCL

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:12 pm

John Upham wrote:
LawrenceCooper wrote: That explained their appearance in the bar in time for most of the second half of the football :o
This result did cause a certain cascade of mirth in the Whitley/Mandela Suite. I was just getting round to take their pictures when they signed the score sheets and left the playing room!
I see the match e2e4.org.uk 1 vs Wood Green Hilsmark 1 from the Sunday (round 2, division 1a) ended 4-4 after eight(!) draws. That looks like a big upset there, as Wood Green were heavy favourites on paper to win that match. I presume those weren't all 8-move draws? Anyone know more about the games from that match? When was the last time all eight games in a 4NCL match ended in draws?

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Post by Alan Burke » Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:21 pm

Currently Sunday 7.20pm yet no Division 3 results even for the Saturday matches are on the 4NCL website even though the results of the Sunday matches for Divisions 1 and 2 are already published.

Any reason ?

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Post by Ian Thompson » Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:26 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:I see the match e2e4.org.uk 1 vs Wood Green Hilsmark 1 from the Sunday (round 2, division 1a) ended 4-4 after eight(!) draws. That looks like a big upset there, as Wood Green were heavy favourites on paper to win that match.
It probably won't matter though. Despite e2e4's good start I'd still predict that they end up in the relegation pool after 7 rounds (unless they recruit some new players to their squad). If Wood Green go through to the Championship pool this match result will be discarded.

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Post by benedgell » Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:29 pm

Div. 3 South results are up for both days, Div.3 North aren't for either, as far as I can tell.

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Post by Alex McFarlane » Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:37 pm

The lack of Div 3 North results may have something to do with the fact the games will not take place until the end of the month!! :D

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Post by benedgell » Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:47 pm

D'oh! :oops:

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Post by Matthew Turner » Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:52 pm

I see the match e2e4.org.uk 1 vs Wood Green Hilsmark 1 from the Sunday (round 2, division 1a) ended 4-4 after eight(!) draws. That looks like a big upset there, as Wood Green were heavy favourites on paper to win that match. I presume those weren't all 8-move draws? Anyone know more about the games from that match? When was the last time all eight games in a 4NCL match ended in draws?[/quote]

Some quickish draws, but I saw the match when six draws had been agreed and Peter Sowray (playing for e2-e4) seemed to be a clear pawn up against Nick Pert. In the end perhaps Wood Green were a bit lucky?

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Post by Sean Hewitt » Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:15 pm

Matthew Turner wrote:Some quickish draws, but I saw the match when six draws had been agreed and Peter Sowray (playing for e2-e4) seemed to be a clear pawn up against Nick Pert. In the end perhaps Wood Green were a bit lucky?
I haven't seen the games yet but I'm told that we were better in the Byron game when agreed drawn, Jackson turned down a draw against Speelman and Sowray was much better in his game. Josse was worse against Trent but somehow ended up in rook and pawn ending a clear pawn up, which Lawrence defended well.

Safe to say that we did much much better than we expected in this match. On the back of beating Guildford 2 yesterday, we're over the moon!
Ian Thompson wrote:It probably won't matter though. Despite e2e4's good start I'd still predict that they end up in the relegation pool after 7 rounds (unless they recruit some new players to their squad).
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