Division One 2017-18
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The 'how' of it is given on p. 471 of my very old, much-thumbed copy of Basic Chess Endings (Fine, 1964). According to reports from my team, Gary Quillan & Glenn House knew the 'golden rule' (see Arkell, above), having studied the position together years back, but had forgotten the details.
It is a 'special case' ending. Fine makes a key point about the colour of the queening square in relation to the defending B and K. The win is "far more complicated" in the conditions under discussion here (ie. not the same colour).
But who - really, who! - reads down to p. 471 in BCE??
It is a 'special case' ending. Fine makes a key point about the colour of the queening square in relation to the defending B and K. The win is "far more complicated" in the conditions under discussion here (ie. not the same colour).
But who - really, who! - reads down to p. 471 in BCE??
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"Basic" certainly seems a misnomer!David Robertson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:54 pmBut who - really, who! - reads down to p. 471 in BCE??
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Can't get hugely more basic than only two pieces and one pawn
(Games like this do make you realise that increments aren't always quite as pleasant an invention as you sometimes think!).
(Games like this do make you realise that increments aren't always quite as pleasant an invention as you sometimes think!).
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What would have likely happened in a game without increments, assuming both players entered the ending with about the same amount of time and were the sort of players that were able to play fast enough to keep up with their opponent on the clock?MartinCarpenter wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:50 pmCan't get hugely more basic than only two pieces and one pawn
(Games like this do make you realise that increments aren't always quite as pleasant an invention as you sometimes think!).
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When one player gets down to the last two minutes, they make the arbiter work by making a draw claim under 10.2/Appendix G etc. An easy decision if the player with the Rook is the one to claim, difficult if it's the player with the Bishop.Christopher Kreuzer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:53 pm
What would have likely happened in a game without increments, assuming both players entered the ending with about the same amount of time and were the sort of players that were able to play fast enough to keep up with their opponent on the clock?
It would be easy to mistakenly award a "lack of progress" draw when the side with the Rook was relocating the King via h4 as recommended. It would be just as easy to award a win to the Rook if the Bishop ran out of time in a position that was a theoretical draw.
That's why World Championships used increments after adjournments had been abolished.
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I went through the whole thing when I was younger, took me a while thoughDavid Robertson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:54 pmBut who - really, who! - reads down to p. 471 in BCE??
"Set up your attacks so that when the fire is out, it isn't out!" (H N Pillsbury)
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"Basic Chess Endings" is a classic. I think a few errors have been discovered over the years, but surprisingly few. It is well worth reading all of it at some stage!
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Match report online from John Carleton, including reference to the ending discussed up-thread. He describes me as 'chief researcher' for Spirit of Atticus. Ha! I wish The reference to 100 Endgames You Must Know by Jesus de la Villa (NIC, 2006) did indeed come from me, but only because Roger Emerson told me first! It's Ending #98 in case you need to know; and it's a very lucid explanation that illuminates Keith Arkell's comments in the discussion above.
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Alsina Leal - Howell
Match hangs on this, down in the eighth hour. It's drawn, but...ah...the increment. Howell was facing a 50-move settlement, but captured the final pawn at #140. So 50 more to come in K+R v K+N
[later] pfft...not even close. Draw at #186
Match hangs on this, down in the eighth hour. It's drawn, but...ah...the increment. Howell was facing a 50-move settlement, but captured the final pawn at #140. So 50 more to come in K+R v K+N
[later] pfft...not even close. Draw at #186
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Tense stuff in the D pool, rd 11. Barbican 2 v. Alba - winner stays up; draw advantage to Alba.
Currently, deep into the sixth hour, it stands 3.5 - 3.5 with Greet - Morrison in play. Greet looks to have the draw in hand [0.10]; and Morrison may have just blundered, pressing for a win. Indeed, he has. Alba nailed on to survive now
SoA, ADs, Cambridge U already down. Barbican staring at a double demotion
Currently, deep into the sixth hour, it stands 3.5 - 3.5 with Greet - Morrison in play. Greet looks to have the draw in hand [0.10]; and Morrison may have just blundered, pressing for a win. Indeed, he has. Alba nailed on to survive now
SoA, ADs, Cambridge U already down. Barbican staring at a double demotion
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Good to see Andy Horton getting a 2nd IM norm; I had wondered about the short draws this weekend
Division 1 Winners:
Champions: Guildford 1
Runners-up: Cheddleton 1
Third: White Rose 1
Fourth: Guildford 2
Relegated:
Barbican 2
Spirit of Atticus A
The ADs
Cambridge University 1
Division 2:
Champions: Manx Liberty
Runners-up: Celtic Tigers
Third: Wood Green Monarchs
Fourth: North East England
Relegated:
Kings Head
Poisoned Pawns 1
White Rose 2
Barbican Youth
The following norms were also achieved this year:
GM Norms AUS Justin Tan (Oxford) - 3rd and final GM norm. Rating required.
IM Norms IRL David Fitzsimons (Wood Green) - 3rd and final IM norm. Title achieved.
ENG Andrew Horton (3Cs) - 2nd IM norm.
ENG Adam C Taylor (Wood Green) - 2nd IM norm.
Division 1 Winners:
Champions: Guildford 1
Runners-up: Cheddleton 1
Third: White Rose 1
Fourth: Guildford 2
Relegated:
Barbican 2
Spirit of Atticus A
The ADs
Cambridge University 1
Division 2:
Champions: Manx Liberty
Runners-up: Celtic Tigers
Third: Wood Green Monarchs
Fourth: North East England
Relegated:
Kings Head
Poisoned Pawns 1
White Rose 2
Barbican Youth
The following norms were also achieved this year:
GM Norms AUS Justin Tan (Oxford) - 3rd and final GM norm. Rating required.
IM Norms IRL David Fitzsimons (Wood Green) - 3rd and final IM norm. Title achieved.
ENG Andrew Horton (3Cs) - 2nd IM norm.
ENG Adam C Taylor (Wood Green) - 2nd IM norm.
Any postings on here represent my personal views
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Congratulations to all those above. Marcus Harvey & Richard Weaving both needed to win in round 10 and then after draws to win again in round 11 but sadly neither were able to do so albeit games against Pert N & Arakhamia and Stefanova & Alsina Leal respectively were somewhat tougher than they needed. Thanks to the opposing captains (Ben Purton of Grantham, Paul Dargan of North East England, Mark Whitehead of Manchester Manticores and Paul Townsend of White Rose) for their help in ensuring my four norm seekers (the two above plus David Fitzsimons and Adam C Taylor) faced the required titled players.Mick Norris wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 8:19 amGood to see Andy Horton getting a 2nd IM norm; I had wondered about the short draws this weekend
The following norms were also achieved this year:
GM Norms AUS Justin Tan (Oxford) - 3rd and final GM norm. Rating required.
IM Norms IRL David Fitzsimons (Wood Green) - 3rd and final IM norm. Title achieved.
ENG Andrew Horton (3Cs) - 2nd IM norm.
ENG Adam C Taylor (Wood Green) - 2nd IM norm.
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