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Good chessing this w/e

Looking like possibly now a 3 horse race for the 2 promotion spots

Position Team Pts GP
1 White Rose 2 16 38
2 Shropshire 1 16 33½
3 Manchester Manticores 2 15 33½
4 3Cs 2 13 31
5 Jorvik 10 25½
6 Cheddleton 2 8 25
7 Bradford DCA Knights B 6 23
8 Spirit of Atticus B 6 22
9 Manx Liberty 2 6 20½
10 Manchester Manticores 3 4 19½
11 Holmes Chapel 4 13½
12 Bradford DCA Knights C 2 14
13 Bolton & Worsley 2 12½
14 Manchester Manticores 4 2 12

So possibly two Manchester Manticores teams in division two next year, or possibly one, or conceivably none. Good luck with that final weekend!

Jonathan Rogers wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:04 am

So possibly two Manchester Manticores teams in division two next year, or possibly one, or conceivably none. Good luck with that final weekend!

Thanks; yes, all 3 possibilities still on

The 2nd team were asking about what happens if they get promoted and the first team gets relegated

First time I have stayed at Doncaster; nice hotel

Mick Norris wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:16 am

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The 2nd team were asking about what happens if they get promoted and the first team gets relegated

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People always ask that! Don't think it has yet happened but you would still enter two teams and they would be subject to the same 80 point rule, so you would probably carry on as normal. Some second team players might feel a bit disgruntled, of course ….

Jonathan Rogers wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:21 am

Some second team players might feel a bit disgruntled, of course ….

I seem to remember that many years ago this happened to a London League club ( Lewisham? ). In those days you couldn't have two teams in the same division, and a careful reading of the rules revealed that the second team had to go down to Div 3. That really was cause for disgrunt!

Is there still the option of running separate squads? That might be a way around it?

Richard

Yes.

Richard Bates wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:37 pm

Is there still the option of running separate squads? That might be a way around it?

We faced this problem a few years back after our 'A's got dumped back in Div 3N, joining our recently-formed 'B's. We were planning a third team too.

So, at our National Strategic Planning Committee, held before our Grand Gala Dinner each year, I was charged to come up with suitable names for the different squads. Spirit of Atticus would be retained; and over dinner, I announced the second name: Spirit of Tacitus.

This met with general approval, colleagues noting my inventiveness in preserving a continuity of classical excellence in the names. And the third name? All eyes turned to me. An expectant hush descended upon the table. For the third name, I proposed - well, what else could I offer? - for the third squad name, I suggested Spirit of Cat Suit

The silence was punctuated by the far-off chime of a single bell. Eyes shifted and colleagues slowly drifted away. In due course, we settled for A, B, C

Final Weekend Pairings

Computer says "NO"

Alex McF says "Oh, No!"

Captains say "OMG!! No!"

Players say "Triangular match in a single day? WTF, OMG, ROFL, NO!!"

Back to the Drawing Board says "Leave it with me"

Everyone says "NO, NO, NO"

I've put a suggestion to Alex, following the withdrawal of Bradford C from the final weekend

I think we just want to see that the top 4 promotion contenders have actually played each other during the season

Jorvik in 5th can reach 16 points, but that wouldn't be enough if Shrops (16) and WR (16) both play MM2 (15) at some stage as well as each other, as this means 2 teams will get to at least 17 points

Saturday

31 White Rose 2 (16) v 3Cs 2 (13)
32 Manchester Manticores 2 (15) v Shropshire 1 (16)
33 Holmes Chapel (4) v Cheddleton 2 (8)
34 Jorvik (10) v Bradford DCA Knights B (6)
35 Manchester Manticores 3 (4) v Manchester Manticores 4 (2)
36 Spirit of Atticus B (6) v Bolton & Worsley (2)

Sunday

31 Shropshire 1 (16) v White Rose 2 (16)
32 3Cs 2 (13) v Holmes Chapel (4)
33 Cheddleton 2 (8) v Manchester Manticores 2 (15)
34 Bradford DCA Knights B (6) v Spirit of Atticus B (6)
35 Bolton & Worsley (2) v Manchester Manticores 3 (4)
36 Manchester Manticores 4 (2) v Jorvik (10)

Monday

31 White Rose 2 (16) v Manchester Manticores 2 (15)
32 3Cs 2 (13) v Shropshire 1 (16)
33 Manchester Manticores 3 (4) v Cheddleton 2 (8)
34 Manchester Manticores 4 (2) v Bradford DCA Knights B (6)
35 Jorvik (10) v Bolton & Worsley (2)
36 Holmes Chapel (4) v Spirit of Atticus B (6)

White Rose 2 looking strong v 3Cs 2

311 w Wall, Tim P f 2241 - Clarke, Stuart W f 2208
312 b Townsend, M Paul 2224 - Bentley, John L 2142
313 w Weller, Jean-Luc 2241 - Lea, Daniel J 2102 e
314 b Dunworth, Christopher N f 2232 - Burton, Graham P 2072 e
315 w Gayson, Peter M 2125 e - Ye, Kevin 1990 e
316 b Shaw, Peter 2096 - Gittens, Nathan L 1975 e

The key match should be close

Manchester Manticores 2 2082 Shropshire 1 2032
321 w Rawlinson, Aidan M 2177 e - Rutter, Nick J 2297 e
322 b Celinski, Kamil 2177 e - Whyte, Brian G 2072 e
323 w Furness, Robert M 2057 e - Higgie, Charles L 2005 e
324 b Hymer, Barry 2042 e - Bryant, Richard B E 1967 e
325 w Lyth, John D 2042 e - Gostelow, David W 1922 e
326 b Webster, Richard J 1997 e - Bennion, David 1930 e

Well that leaves it interesting Great result from the 3C's 2 lower boards to get the 3-3 draw in that match and Manchester winning as well.

Yes happy with the result; WR2 v Shrops will be interesting today