Division One 2018-19

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Re: Division One 2018-19

Post by David Robertson » Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:51 pm

Tim Harding wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:39 pm
The main thing Hou Yifan would need to be concerned about is not to violate the terms of her visa. Rather than worry about it, simpler to say no?
Roger Emerson v. Home Office? Too close to call

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Re: Division One 2018-19

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:59 pm

You would hope that in the event of any dispute, that her university and college (St Hilda's) would support her. Anyway, if it is only a year, would anything happen before she finished the course (though she may want to take up options to continue studying or working in the UK)? She may in any event be too busy studying.

She is on a Rhodes Scholarship (I think that is still impressive):

https://www.rhodeshouse.ox.ac.uk/schola ... yifan-hou/

She is studying for a MSc in Education.

It does sound impressive (I am sure it is):

http://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/20171 ... 8e3be.html

"4 Chinese students win Rhodes Scholarships among 12,000 global candidates"

Ah, she is studying at the Blavatnik School of Government!

https://www.bsg.ox.ac.uk/people/yifan-hou
Blavatnik School of Government wrote: Yifan Hou
MPP student, Chinese

I graduated from Peking University (PKU), with a degree in International Studies, majoring in Diplomacy. Besides being a student, I am a four-time Women's World Chess Champion and currently the number one female player in the world. As the Special Adviser of the Commission for Women's Chess (WOM) and member of Chess in Schools Commission (CIS) under the World Chess Federation (FIDE), I am not only involved with related-policy making, but also promoted the chess industry and encouraged underprivileged children to follow their dreams. At the 95th Anniversary of the May 4th Movement, hosted by PKU, I was the sole undergraduate representative to meet and report to President Xi Jinping. Lately, I have worked at the Breakthrough Prize Foundation, assisting with Chinese Market launching and social media strategy. I am excited about my prospects in the Education domain and related policy area at the global level and looking forward to meeting like-minded people in the MPP class.

Yifan Hou is a Rhodes Scholar 2018-19.
The reports saying she was studying for an MSc in Education may be inaccurate (unless that was earlier), as she is studying for a Master of Public Policy (MPP).

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Re: Division One 2018-19

Post by Roger de Coverly » Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:49 pm

Tim Harding wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:39 pm
On a superficial reading, if the article and mentioned thread are correct, it seems to say it is OK for her to play for a professional sports team but not an amateur one.
There was a recent Court case where it was ruled that Bridge and by implication Chess were not legally sports in the UK. Rambling however is, so does walking infringe the visa conditions?

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Re: Division One 2018-19

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:59 pm

"There was a recent Court case where it was ruled that Bridge and by implication Chess were not legally sports in the UK. Rambling however is, so does walking infringe the visa conditions?"

Or running for a bus. In fairness, there's plenty of rambling on this site.

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Post by Alex Holowczak » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:08 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:49 pm
There was a recent Court case where it was ruled that Bridge and by implication Chess were not legally sports in the UK.
This is the key argument, to my mind. The government can't, on the one hand, say that chess isn't a sport and block any efforts by it and games like bridge to be recognised as such, while then insisting that the alleged Tier 4 visa regulations apply to chess because it is a sport. If the government are going to insist on the distinction being of significance, then they can't redefine chess on a whim for some regulations but not others.

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Post by Kevin Thurlow » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:10 pm

"This is the key argument, to my mind. The government can't, on the one hand, say that chess isn't a sport and block any efforts by it and games like bridge to be recognised as such, while then insisting that the alleged Tier 4 visa regulations apply to chess because it is a sport. If the government are going to insist on the distinction being of significance, then they can't redefine chess on a whim for some regulations but not others."

Governments are not bound by logic!

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Re: Division One 2018-19

Post by Roger Lancaster » Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:54 pm

Alex Holowczak wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:08 pm
If the government are going to insist on the distinction being of significance, then they can't redefine chess on a whim for some regulations but not others.
I'm afraid they can, although I guess it would be susceptible to legal challenge.

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Re: Division One 2018-19

Post by Nick Grey » Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:31 am

I guess a legal challenge. What government atm?

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Re: Division One 2018-19

Post by Leonard Barden » Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:11 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/ ... owell-4ncl#
As promised above. Comments in the comments box at the end of the article are helpful to show the sports editor that the subject matter interests chessplayers. The last article about the 4NCL received only four comments.

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Re: Division One 2018-19

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:16 pm

The three returning medalists received a round of applause at the start of play at 4NCL on the Saturday, incidentally. I don't post on Guardian anymore but we certainly should support the column and any comments that show some knowledge are perhaps all the more helpful.

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Re: Division One 2018-19

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:17 pm

Its increasingly becoming a novelty for the Guardian to open anything for comments these days......
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Re: Division One 2018-19

Post by MartinCarpenter » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:32 am

Not like you can blame them for that!

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Re: Division One 2018-19

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:06 pm

I can, its highly connected with a lot of their output these days being clickbaity rubbish.
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Re: Division One 2018-19

Post by LawrenceCooper » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:23 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:40 pm
Leonard Barden wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:09 pm
LawrenceCooper wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:19 am

Is it too late to correct the error about Michael Adams being registered at the start of the season?
The article is a month old, but you can send a correction to

https://www.theguardian.com/info/tech-feedback

Click the Comment or query about an article option

You can always make a comment or correction at the time the article is published in the comments box provided, and it will be dealt with then. That's also helpful in showing reader interest. There were only four reader comments about the 4NCL article. far fewer than normal.
Thanks, I've done as you suggested.
The article has now been corrected.

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Re: Division One 2018-19

Post by David Robertson » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:42 pm

Cricket's equivalent of losing to Guildford 7.5 - 0.5 :shock:

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