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Classic advanced training books for sale:

Dvoretsky's Analytical Manual
Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual
Secrets of Chess Training - Dvoretsky
Secrets of Chess Tactics - Dvoretsky
Training for the Tournament Player- Dvoretsky/Yusupov
Technique for the Tournament Player Dvoretsky/Yusupov
Opening Preparation - Dvoretsky/Yusupov

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GM Dorfman said Dvoretsky was always a poor patzer!

I do somewhat think that was an example of what is now called "trash talking"

Im pretty sure dvorestkys contributions to the game will be remembered far more in the future then those of a mediocre Grandmaster that most people living right now haven't heard of.

Just a shame he has such a crazy unpronounceable surname - there are so much easier Russian names he could have chosen

Dorfman's probably best known for a game he lost.

[Event "USSR Championship"] [Site "Moscow URS"] [Date "1976.12.07"] [EventDate "1976.11.27"] [Round "8"] [Result "1-0"] [White "Anatoly Karpov"] [Black "Iossif Davidovich Dorfman"] [ECO "B81"] [WhiteElo "?"] [BlackElo "?"] [PlyCount "99"] 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 e6 6. g4 Be7 7. g5 Nfd7 8. h4 Nc6 9. Be3 a6 10. Qe2 Qc7 11. O-O-O b5 12. Nxc6 Qxc6 13. Bd4 b4 14. Nd5 exd5 15. Bxg7 Rg8 16. exd5 Qc7 17. Bf6 Ne5 18. Bxe5 dxe5 19. f4 Bf5 20. Bh3 Bxh3 21. Rxh3 Rc8 22. fxe5 Qc4 23. Rdd3 Qf4+ 24. Kb1 Rc4 25. d6 Re4 26. Rhe3 Rxe3 27. Rxe3 Qxh4 28. Qf3 Qxg5 29. Re1 Qg2 30. Qf5 Rg6 31. Rf1 Qd5 32. dxe7 Kxe7 33. Qf4 a5 34. Qh4+ Ke8 35. Qxh7 Qf3 36. Qh8+ Ke7 37. Qh4+ Ke8 38. Qc4 Qb7 39. b3 Re6 40. Rg1 Rxe5 41. Rg8+ Ke7 42. Qh4+ Kd7 43. Qf6 Re7 44. Qf5+ Kd6 45. Qxa5 Re5 46. Qd8+ Ke6 47. Kb2 f6 48. Rf8 Qg7 49. Qc8+ Kd5 50. Qc4+ 1-0

Joey Stewart wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:54 pm

Im pretty sure dvorestkys contributions to the game will be remembered far more in the future then those of a mediocre Grandmaster that most people living right now haven't heard of.

Yes he will. However in July 2002 Dorfman was ranked no.77 in the world. I think calling that mediocre is somewhat off the mark.

He did also win the Soviet Championship the following year. Mediocre more than harsh.

Certainly trash talking on both sides, in the best tradition of rivalry between Soviet coaches. Dvoretsky accused Dorfman of trying to trick his readers by pretending that chess could be explained with a grand theory. Loads of good stuff in English by Dvoretsky. But Grischuk is the big name chess24 use to promote their Dorfman content.

Arabian Proverb wrote:Judge a man by the reputation of his enemies

IM Jack Rudd wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:38 pm

Dorfman's probably best known for a game he lost.

[Event "USSR Championship"] [Site "Moscow URS"] [Date "1976.12.07"] [EventDate "1976.11.27"] [Round "8"] [Result "1-0"] [White "Anatoly Karpov"] [Black "Iossif Davidovich Dorfman"] [ECO "B81"] [WhiteElo "?"] [BlackElo "?"] [PlyCount "99"] 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 e6 6. g4 Be7 7. g5 Nfd7 8. h4 Nc6 9. Be3 a6 10. Qe2 Qc7 11. O-O-O b5 12. Nxc6 Qxc6 13. Bd4 b4 14. Nd5 exd5 15. Bxg7 Rg8 16. exd5 Qc7 17. Bf6 Ne5 18. Bxe5 dxe5 19. f4 Bf5 20. Bh3 Bxh3 21. Rxh3 Rc8 22. fxe5 Qc4 23. Rdd3 Qf4+ 24. Kb1 Rc4 25. d6 Re4 26. Rhe3 Rxe3 27. Rxe3 Qxh4 28. Qf3 Qxg5 29. Re1 Qg2 30. Qf5 Rg6 31. Rf1 Qd5 32. dxe7 Kxe7 33. Qf4 a5 34. Qh4+ Ke8 35. Qxh7 Qf3 36. Qh8+ Ke7 37. Qh4+ Ke8 38. Qc4 Qb7 39. b3 Re6 40. Rg1 Rxe5 41. Rg8+ Ke7 42. Qh4+ Kd7 43. Qf6 Re7 44. Qf5+ Kd6 45. Qxa5 Re5 46. Qd8+ Ke6 47. Kb2 f6 48. Rf8 Qg7 49. Qc8+ Kd5 50. Qc4+ 1-0

But when the game you lose is as good as that one......Dorfman fought to the bitter end as well.

Joey Stewart wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:54 pm

Just a shame he has such a crazy unpronounceable surname

Ste-whart?
Stoy-yart?
Saint-yoo-art?

<gives up>

You have to remember that Joey is talking about someone called Dvorestkys.