outrageous escape
-
- Posts: 1916
- Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2015 2:44 pm
Re: outrageous escape
I think we've got the gist of this without more examples. When Alan finds a swindle, it's clever. When his opponent finds a swindle, they're cheating.
-
- Posts: 3559
- Joined: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:31 pm
- Location: Awbridge, Hampshire
Re: outrageous escape
Unlike positions 1 - 3, where there's a forced win/draw, or position 5, where's there's an obvious way Black could blunder into a mate, I'm struggling to see a swindle in this position. If this game ended in a draw White must have blundered in a way that's not obvious from the starting position.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
-
- Posts: 4828
- Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:13 am
- Location: Bideford
Re: outrageous escape
I'm guessing that it finished 1...Rc8 2.bxc8Q?? stalemate.
-
- Posts: 604
- Joined: Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:14 pm
Re: outrageous escape
I suspect a stalemate trick, maybe Rc8?
-
- Posts: 687
- Joined: Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:40 am
- Location: Barrow, England
Re: outrageous escape
yes your both right
-
- Posts: 1057
- Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:40 pm
Re: outrageous escape
Genuinely impressed; I can't think of any motif of which I could immediately call to mind five examples from my own games.
Donate to Sabrina's fundraiser at https://gofund.me/aeae42c7 to support victims of sexual abuse in the chess world.
Northumberland webmaster, Jesmond CC something-or-other. Views mine. Definitely below the Goodall Line.
Northumberland webmaster, Jesmond CC something-or-other. Views mine. Definitely below the Goodall Line.
-
- Posts: 687
- Joined: Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:40 am
- Location: Barrow, England
Re: outrageous escape
i have about 40 examples like these from my best moves list here (click on the name in the list and a diagram and moves played and game list will come up) http://alanllewellynchess.co.uk/moves.htm
-
- Posts: 3559
- Joined: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:31 pm
- Location: Awbridge, Hampshire
Re: outrageous escape
If it had been an online game, I could believe that White might think the move was a mouse slip and just take the rook. But in an OTB game with a 30 seconds a move increment ...?IM Jack Rudd wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:38 pmI'm guessing that it finished 1...Rc8 2.bxc8Q?? stalemate.
Last edited by Ian Thompson on Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.
-
- Posts: 3496
- Joined: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:36 pm
- Location: Under Cover
Re: outrageous escape
Hi Alan,
Any chance names as well as places and dates could be given in OTB games.
I run a 'Always Pause Before Promoting' section and I like number four. 1...Rc8.
I have many examples where a player has automatically taken a Queen and stalemate.
This one also fits under the 'Game Over Blunder' highlighting when we are at the most vulnerable...
...playing the 'they must resign now move.'
It would quite funny (or tragic) if the player had spotted 2.bxc8=Q is a stalemate so took a Bishop instead.
Edit: I thought I read Position 4 was from the Bedford Open. If it was an online game there quite understandable.
Edit 2. Misread the I'f' it was an online game...good an OTB game.
Any chance names as well as places and dates could be given in OTB games.
I run a 'Always Pause Before Promoting' section and I like number four. 1...Rc8.
I have many examples where a player has automatically taken a Queen and stalemate.
This one also fits under the 'Game Over Blunder' highlighting when we are at the most vulnerable...
...playing the 'they must resign now move.'
It would quite funny (or tragic) if the player had spotted 2.bxc8=Q is a stalemate so took a Bishop instead.
Edit: I thought I read Position 4 was from the Bedford Open. If it was an online game there quite understandable.
Edit 2. Misread the I'f' it was an online game...good an OTB game.
-
- Posts: 687
- Joined: Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:40 am
- Location: Barrow, England
Re: outrageous escape
pos 4 game
-
- Posts: 687
- Joined: Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:40 am
- Location: Barrow, England
Re: outrageous escape
pos 2 game
-
- Posts: 687
- Joined: Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:40 am
- Location: Barrow, England
Re: outrageous escape
pos 3 game
-
- Posts: 687
- Joined: Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:40 am
- Location: Barrow, England
Re: outrageous escape
pos 5 game
-
- Posts: 5249
- Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:51 pm
- Location: Millom, Cumbria
Re: outrageous escape
Really not a terribly helpful comment.Roger Lancaster wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:57 amI think we've got the gist of this without more examples. When Alan finds a swindle, it's clever. When his opponent finds a swindle, they're cheating.
"Set up your attacks so that when the fire is out, it isn't out!" (H N Pillsbury)
-
- Posts: 3496
- Joined: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:36 pm
- Location: Under Cover
Re: outrageous escape
Thanks Alan,
I'll use the Bedford game v Brian. (I'll post a link when it's up)
Have a few online examples but often that is because the players promote to a Queen
without a choice because unknown to them that is their current default setting.
Red Hot Pawn had a, '...always promote to Queen setting' that caused some grumbling and mumbling, all good fun.
Sorry about the online not online confusion, my old eyes play up.
I have to + 130 the screen to see what is being said but back to 100% to see a diagram.
I missed the 'if' and read it as ;'It was an online game.
I'll use the Bedford game v Brian. (I'll post a link when it's up)
Have a few online examples but often that is because the players promote to a Queen
without a choice because unknown to them that is their current default setting.
Red Hot Pawn had a, '...always promote to Queen setting' that caused some grumbling and mumbling, all good fun.
Sorry about the online not online confusion, my old eyes play up.
I have to + 130 the screen to see what is being said but back to 100% to see a diagram.
I missed the 'if' and read it as ;'It was an online game.