Chess Masters: the Endgame

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Roland Kensdale
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Chess Masters: the Endgame

Post by Roland Kensdale » Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:39 pm

Long article including profiles of all the players.

Think this programme probably deserves it's own thread, many comments may be lost under 'media comments on chess', another thread dedicated to a poll. If this thread not required, please use that.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/media ... ss-masters

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Chess Masters Series On BBC

Post by Steve Emmerton » Tue Mar 04, 2025 7:42 pm

The new Chess Masters series starts on BBC2 and BBC iPlayer on Monday 10th March. Click here for further details - https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/media ... ss-masters

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Re: Chess Masters: the Endgame

Post by Nick Burrows » Tue Mar 04, 2025 7:52 pm

I guess "Lula" is Tallulah Roberts https://www.chess.com/players/tallulah-roberts
I also recognise Nick (Templar) I think https://rating.englishchess.org.uk/v2/n ... de=346799F

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Re: Chess Masters Series On BBC

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:21 pm

Already a thread on this in the General Chat section, puzzled about its relevance to "ECF Matters" tbh.
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Re: Chess Masters Series On BBC

Post by Steve Emmerton » Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:38 am

You're right !! I put it in the wrong place. Didn't realise there was already a thread going.

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Re: Chess Masters: the Endgame

Post by Geoff Chandler » Wed Mar 05, 2025 4:28 pm

The players have been given nicknames; 'The Smiling Assassin’ is Caitlin Reid from Scotland, Tallulah (Lula) is 'The Chess Princess.' Nick Templar ‘The Swashbuckler’

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Re: Chess Masters: the Endgame

Post by jholyhead » Wed Mar 05, 2025 5:03 pm

Thalia was a strong Division 1 player in the Shropshire League until she moved to Chester, so the Welsh Marches have our champion.

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Re: Chess Masters: the Endgame

Post by Nick Ivell » Wed Mar 05, 2025 7:43 pm

I welcome the return of chess to TV. I seem to recall Karpov from the Master Game; these players seem somewhat less distinguished.

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Re: Chess Masters: the Endgame

Post by NickFaulks » Wed Mar 05, 2025 7:58 pm

Online bullet has given you the opportunity to watch top players playing poor chess. Now you can watch mediocre players playing poor chess. You can't stand in the way of progress.
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Re: Chess Masters: the Endgame

Post by Geoff Chandler » Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:33 pm

Hi Nick,

We have to give a good chance. If they were GM's most of the moves will go over the heads of 90% of the viewers. I have no problem seeing some plausible blunders being made, and I expect some, especially at rapid. David seems to comment for the weakest viewers (which is how it should be) so explaining them is covered.
If it takes off there will be more. And I really do expect we will see some good games. The are some reasonable players in that line up. Looking forward to it.

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Re: Chess Masters: the Endgame

Post by AustinElliott » Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:30 pm

Wondering if contestant 'Kel' could be Kelechukwu Nkwonta, who plays for the Bolton Chess Club 1st and 2nd teams in the local leagues. He's an 1850-1900 rated player with an attacking style.

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Re: Chess Masters: the Endgame

Post by Mick Norris » Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:50 pm

Yes, see other thread
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Re: Chess Masters: the Endgame

Post by Matt Fletcher » Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:52 pm

I’m going to give it a look - they all seem to be pretty decent players and very enthusiastic about their chess.

If it takes off I’m also looking forward to fielding the “x on Chess Masters was pretty good - could you beat them?” from friends and colleagues!

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Re: Chess Masters: the Endgame

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:54 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 7:58 pm
Now you can watch mediocre players playing poor chess.
There may not be so many actual games. The publicity seemed to imply some problem and puzzle solving was included.

If 1600 is still around the middle of the rating distribution of active amateur players, the players seem to be between average and above average.

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Re: Chess Masters: the Endgame

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:10 am

TV "Game Shows" have different sorts of participants. Mastermind wants people that programme makers think are going to do well at answering tough questions. Generation Game wanted people who would have fun and wouldn't mind looking a bit silly to entertain the viewing millions.

Here it seems they want people who can actually play, but are not superstars. I watched a Chessable course where Magnus Carlsen talked about a move and said it was obviously bad. The eyes of his IM companion widened and he had to ask "why?"! This was a relief to me as I was wondering the same.

Presumably the intention is that more of the audience will understand what's going on watching the selected players than watching Gukesh - Carlsen.

With a bit of luck, people watching will think, "I can beat these people" and they will play more chess. I hope the contestants enjoy the experience. I expect to see one of them next month and I will certainly ask!

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