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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Roger de Coverly » Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:11 am

Stewart Reuben wrote: Walking is excellent, but usually non-competitive.
That doesn't prevent it being classified in the UK as a sport as witnessed by the presence of the Ramblers Association as one of the Sports Governing bodies recognised and perhaps supported by Sport England. What do they do about WADA requirements though? Is there an exemption if a "sport" is non-competitive?

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Stewart Reuben » Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:20 am

Presumably walking races are subject to the same WADA requirements as other sports if in the IOC.
In order for chess to be in the IOC, the WADA requirements have to be met. Thus there is drug testing in chess. For the UK chess being in the IOC has very few advantages. This is not true for other countries.e.g. Barbados Chess does well out of the connection.

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Roger de Coverly » Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:27 am

Stewart Reuben wrote:Presumably walking races are subject to the same WADA requirements as other sports if in the IOC.
I wasn't thinking of racing. The Ramblers' Association, apart from being a political organisation dedicated to supporting rights of access, organises "social" walks in the British countryside.

This is their website, which doesn't have a hint of competition about it.
http://www.ramblers.org.uk/
http://www.ramblers.org.uk/go-walking.aspx

It's been around since at least the 1930s, so possibly influenced the wording of the 1937 Act.

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Stewart Reuben » Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:46 am

I thought the IOC was solely concerned with competitive sports. That is what causes there to be an interest in WADA. Drug testing ramblers would be a little like drug testing people in the commentary room at a chess event.

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Brian Towers » Fri Sep 25, 2015 8:46 am

Stewart Reuben wrote:I thought the IOC was solely concerned with competitive sports. That is what causes there to be an interest in WADA. Drug testing ramblers would be a little like drug testing people in the commentary room at a chess event.
Surely not another reference to Warwick?
Ah, but I was so much older then. I'm younger than that now.

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Michael Farthing » Fri Sep 25, 2015 3:57 pm

Stewart Reuben wrote: I dislike people knocking other activities in favour of their own. Crossword puzzles, Soduku and Patience have their enthusiasts. They are solitary occupations.
Golf, tennis can be played to a great age. But they require a measure of physical fitness. Walking is excellent, but usually non-competitive.
Stewart, I note one activity missing from this ironic contribution: For some reason do you not have problems with people knocking other activities in favour of, say, poker?

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Stewart Reuben » Fri Sep 25, 2015 6:43 pm

Michael Farthing >Stewart, I note one activity missing from this ironic contribution: For some reason do you not have problems with people knocking other activities in favour of, say, poker?<

I have retired from poker 5 years ago as I was no longer making money at it. I have never heard of anybody extolling the value of poker for people's health. I was told GM Tibor Tolnai said he preferred poker over chess as there was nobody over 2300 strength.
Of course if you continue playing poker it will be good for certain aspects of your mental condition.
Each person can choose their favourites. There is no need to be disparaging about any of them.Jana was extolling the virtues of chess.

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by MartinCarpenter » Fri Sep 25, 2015 7:30 pm

Are you sure the Ramblers are a sports governing body? It would genuinely surprise me.

They're actually mostly actively anti competitive - I'd struggle to call much of what they organise walks :) What they do does have very real population health benefits of course, which seems to be where there current Government funding is coming from.

I can't actually think of any fully competitive thing that involves simply walking off a track - people just run it instead! Hence fell running/orienteering/mountain marathons etc of course, none of which are related to the Ramblers in any sense. Stuff like climbing is the BMC if anyone.

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Roger de Coverly » Fri Sep 25, 2015 8:41 pm

MartinCarpenter wrote:Are you sure the Ramblers are a sports governing body? It would genuinely surprise me.
They are a governing body and on the Sport England list. That gives them a favourable VAT treatment and eligibility for grants. The EBU and ECF are not on the Sport England list.

The Sport England interpretation is that physical activity is a necessity (even if only to launch model aeroplanes), but competition is an optional extra.

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Michael Farthing » Fri Sep 25, 2015 9:08 pm

Yes, Roger is right. Goodness knows how they got it. I'm a rambler - but I wouldn't touch the RA with a barge pole and I'm certainly not governed by them. Once someone suggested that because they were my governing body I should do what they said. Whoever it was got short change.

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Stewart Reuben » Fri Sep 25, 2015 9:45 pm

Herewith the list of sporting federations recognised by the IOC. Bridge, Chess, Draughts, Go, Poker, Quidditch(!) are included. Though not necessarily members of the IOC as bridge and chess are. FIDE have tried to enter into a dialogue with the Paralympic Committee, but they hve not responded.
I don 't know if there is any sport actually held in the Olympic Games which is not recognised by SportEngland.

Association of Summer Olympic International Federations (ASOIF)
Aquatics (swimming, diving, synchronized swimming, water polo and open water swimming): Fédération Internationale de Natation (FINA)
Archery: World Archery Federation (WA)
Athletics (covering track and field, road running, cross country running, decathlon and racewalking): International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF)
Badminton: Badminton World Federation (BWF)
Basketball: Fédération Internationale de Basketball (FIBA)
Boxing (amateur): International Boxing Association (AIBA) NOTE, NOT PROFESSIONAL
Canoeing: International Canoe Federation (ICF)
Cycling: Union Cycliste Internationale (UCI / ICU)
Equestrianism: Fédération Équestre Internationale (FEI)
Fencing: Fédération Internationale d'Escrime (FIE)
Football: Fédération Internationale de Football Association (FIFA)
Golf: International Golf Federation (IGF) (Compared to other ARISFs, the IGF governs very little of its sport. See the IGF article for more details.)
Gymnastics, (including rhythmic gymnastics, sports acrobatics, sports aerobics, trampolining and tumbling): Fédération Internationale de Gymnastique (FIG / IFG)
Handball (team): International Handball Federation (IHF)
Hockey (field): International Hockey Federation (FIH)
Judo: International Judo Federation (IJF)
Modern pentathlon: Union Internationale de Pentathlon Moderne (UIPM)
Rowing: Fédération Internationale des Sociétés d'Aviron (FISA)
Rugby union: World Rugby (WR)
Sailing: International Sailing Federation (ISAF)
Shooting: International Shooting Sport Federation (ISSF)
Table tennis: International Table Tennis Federation (ITTF)
Taekwondo: World Taekwondo Federation (WTF)
Tennis: International Tennis Federation (ITF)
Triathlon: International Triathlon Union (ITU)
Volleyball and Beach volleyball: Fédération Internationale de Volleyball (FIVB)
Weightlifting: International Weightlifting Federation (IWF)
Wrestling: United World Wrestling (UWW)

Association of International Olympic Winter Sports Federations (AIOWF)
Biathlon: International Biathlon Union (IBU)
Bobsleigh and skeleton: Fédération Internationale de Bobsleigh et de Tobogganing (FIBT)
Curling: World Curling Federation (WCF)
Ice hockey: International Ice Hockey Federation (IIHF)
Ice skating (including figure skating, speed skating, and Short-track speed skating): International Skating Union (ISU)
Luge: Fédération Internationale de Luge de Course (FIL)
Skiing (including Alpine, Nordic combined, cross-country, freestyle, ski jumping and snowboarding): Fédération Internationale de Ski (FIS)

Association of the IOC Recognised International Sports Federations (ARISF)[2]
Air sports (including aerobatics, air racing, ballooning, gliding, hang gliding, and parachuting/skydiving): Fédération Aéronautique Internationale (FAI)
Auto racing: Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA)
Bandy: Federation of International Bandy (FIB)
Baseball and softball: World Baseball Softball Confederation (WBSC)
Basque pelota: Fédération Internationale de Pelota Vasca (FIPV)
Billard sports (including carom billiards, pocket billiards/pool, and snooker): World Confederation of Billiard Sports (WCBS)
Carom: Union Mondiale de Billard (UMB)
Pool: World Pool-Billiard Association (WPA)
Snooker: International Billiards and Snooker Federation (IBSF)
Boules sports: Confédération Mondiale des Sports de Boules (CMSB)
Bocce: Confederazione Boccistica Internazionale (CBI)
Bowls: World Bowls (WB)
Boule Lyonnaise: Fédération Internationale de Boules (FIB)
Pétanque: Fédération Internationale de Pétanque et Jeu Provençal (FIPJP)
Bowling (Ten-pin): Fédération Internationale des Quilleurs (FIQ)
Bridge: World Bridge Federation (WBF)
Chess: Fédération Internationale des Échecs (FIDE)[3][4][5]
Cricket: International Cricket Council (ICC)[6]
DanceSport: International DanceSport Federation (IDSF)
Floorball: International Floorball Federation (IFF)
Flying disc: World Flying Disc Federation (WFDF)
Karate: World Karate Federation (WKF)
Korfball: International Korfball Federation (IKF)
Life saving: International Life Saving Federation (ILSF)
Motorcycle sport: Fédération Internationale de Motocyclisme (FIM)
Mountaineering: Union Internationale des Associations d'Alpinisme (UIAA)
Netball: International Federation of Netball Associations (IFNA)
Orienteering: International Orienteering Federation (IOF)
Polo: Federation of International Polo (FIP)
Powerboating: Union Internationale Motonautique (UIM)
Racquetball: International Racquetball Federation (IRF)
Roller sports (including inline hockey, roller racing, rink hockey, roller derby and artistic): International Federation of Roller Sports (FIRS)
Squash: World Squash Federation (WSF)
Sports climbing: International Federation of Sport Climbing (IFSC)
Sumo: International Sumo Federation (ISF)
Surfing and bodyboarding: International Surfing Association (ISA)
Tug-of-war: Tug-of-War International Federation (TWIF)
Underwater sports: Confédération Mondiale des Activités Subaquatiques (CMAS)
Water skiing: International Water Ski Federation (IWSF)
Wushu: International Wushu Federation (IWUF)

Federations recognized by the International Paralympic Committee (IPC)
There are 11 international federations recognized by the IPC, while the IPC itself serves as the international federation for 9 sports.[7][8]
Alpine Skiing: IPC Alpine Skiing (IPC AS)
Archery: World Archery Federation (WA)
Athletics: IPC Athletics (IPC AT)
Badminton: Parabadminton World Federation (PBWF) / Badminton World Federation (BWF)[9]
Boccia: Boccia International Sports Federation (BISFed) [10]
Cycling: International Cycling Union (UCI)
Equestrian: International Federation for Equestrian Sports (FEI)
Flying disc: World Flying Disc Federation (WFDF)
Ice Sledge Hockey: IPC Ice Sledge Hockey (IPC ISH)
Nordic skiing (including Biathlon and Cross-Country Skiing): IPC Nordic Skiing (IPC NS)
Powerlifting: IPC Powerlifting (IPC PO)
Rowing: International Rowing Federation (FISA)
Sailing: International Federation for Disabled Sailing (IFDS)
Shooting: IPC Shooting (IPC SH)
Swimming: IPC Swimming (IPC SW)
Table Tennis: International Table Tennis Federation (ITTF)
Volleyball: World Organization Volleyball for Disabled (WOVD)
Wheelchair basketball: International Wheelchair Basketball Federation (IWBF)
Wheelchair Dance Sport: IPC Wheelchair Dance Sport (IPC WDS)
Wheelchair curling: World Curling Federation (WCF)
Wheelchair rugby: International Wheelchair Rugby Federation (IWRF)
Wheelchair tennis: International Tennis Federation (ITF)

Disability specific organizations
Football 7-a-side: Cerebral Palsy International Sports and Recreation Association (CPISRA)
Football 5-a-side: International Blind Sports Federation (IBSA)
Goalball: International Blind Sports Federation (IBSA)
Judo: International Blind Sports Federation (IBSA)
Wheelchair Fencing: International Wheelchair and Amputee Sports Federation (IWAS)
Inas for athletes with an intellectual disability

SportAccord (GAISF)
Federations which are members of the IOC (ASOIF, AIOWF and ARISF) are members of SportAccord, formerly known as General Association of International Sports Federations (GAISF).
And furthermore, several other federations which are not IOC members are members of the AGFIS, even if this is not a governing body of a sport.[clarification needed]

Aikido: International Aikido Federation (IAF)
Bodybuilding: International Federation of Bodybuilding & Fitness (IFBB)
Casting: International Casting Sport Federation (ICSF)
College athletics: Federation Internationale du Sport Universitaire
Commonwealth Games: Commonwealth Games Federation
Dragon boat racing: International Dragon Boat Federation (IDBF)
Draughts: World Draughts Federation (FMJD)
Fishing: International Confederation of Sports Fishing (CIPS)
Fistball: International Fistball Association (IFA)
Floorball: International Floorball Federation (IFF)
Flying disc: World Flying Disc Federation (WFDF)
Football (American and Canadian): International Federation of American Football (IFAF)
Go: International Go Federation (IGF)
Ju-jitsu: Ju-Jitsu International Federation (JJIF)
Kendo: International Kendo Federation (IKF)
Kickboxing: World Association of Kickboxing Organizations (WAKO)
Lacrosse: Federation of International Lacrosse
Labour Sport: International Labour Sports Federation
Masters Games: International Masters Games Association
Military Sports: International Military Sports Council (Conseil International du Sport Militaire)
Miniature golf: World Minigolfsport Federation (WMF)
Muay Thai: International Federation of Muaythai Amateur
Panathlon: Panathlon International
Paralympic: International Paralympic Committee
Cerebral Palsy International Sport and Recreation Association
International Blind Sports Federation
International Sports Federation for Persons with Intellectual Disability
International Wheelchair and Amputee Sports Federation
Powerlifting: International Powerlifting Federation (IPF), WUAP, GPC, WPC
Sambo: Federation International of Amateur Sambo (FIAS)
Savate: Federation International De Savate
School Sport: International School Sport Federation
Sepak Takraw: International Sepaktakraw Federation (ISTAF)
Ski mountaineering: International Ski Mountaineering Federation (ISMF)
Sled dog sports: International Federation of Sleddog Sports
Soft Tennis: International Soft Tennis Federation (ISTF)
Special Olympics: Special Olympics, Inc.
Sports Chiropractic: Fédération Internationale de Chiropratique du Sport; or International Federation of Sports Chiropractic
Sports Facilities: International Association for Sports and Leisure Facilities
Sports fishing: Confédération Internationale de la Pêche Sportive
Sports for the Deaf: International Committee of Sports for the Deaf
Sports Press: Association Internationale de la Presse Sportive
Timekeepers: Fédération Internationale des Chronométreurs
World Games: International World Games Association
Wushu: International Wushu Federation (IWUF)

Other international sport federations
Airsoft: International Airsoft Practical Shooting (IAPS)
Arm wrestling: World Armwrestling Federation (WAF)
Ham Radio Contesting, Amateur Radio Direction Finding & High Speed Telegraphy: International Amateur Radio Union (IARU)
Australian rules football: AFL Commission
Bowling (Canadian five-pin): Canadian 5 Pin Bowlers Association (C5PBA)
Beach Soccer: Beach Soccer Worldwide (BSWW), Fédération Internationale de Football Association (FIFA)
Behcup: World Behcup Federation (WBF)
Broomball: International Federation of Broomball Associations (IFBA)
Bodyboarding: International Bodyboarding Association (IBA)
Bowls: Professional Bowls Association (PBA)
Boxing: World Professional Boxing Federation (WPBF)
Hapkido Boxing:Hapkido Boxing International Organization (HBIO)
Correspondence Chess: International Correspondence Chess Federation (ICCF)
Croquet: World Croquet Federation (WCF)
Sqay: International Council Of Sqay (ICS)I
Darts: World Darts Federation (WDF)
Elephant Polo : World Elephant Polo Association (WEPF)
Foosball: International Table Soccer Federation (ITSF)
Rugby Fives: Rugby Fives Association (RFA)
Football (Gaelic): Gaelic Athletic Association (GAA)
Goalball: International Blind Sports Federation (IBSA)
Golf: The R&A; United States Golf Association (USGA)
Greyhound racing: American Greyhound Track Operators Association (AGTOA), National Greyhound Racing Club (NGRC)
Handball (court): Irish Handball Council, United States Handball Association (USHA)
Harness horse racing: Harness Horsemen International (HHI), European Trotting Union (UET)
Horse racing: International Racing Bureau (IRB)
Horseshoes: National Horseshoe Pitchers Association of America (NHPA)
Hurling: Gaelic Athletic Association (GAA)
Intercrosse: Fédération Internationale d’Inter-Crosse (FIIC)
International game International Ball game Confederation (CIJB) (Confederation Internationale du Jeu de Balle)
International game International game confederation
International Game Fish Association (IGFA)
International Gay Bowling Organization (IGBO)
International Rope Skipping Federation (IRSF)
International Pitch and Putt Association (IPPA)
Jujutsu: World Ju-Jitsu Federation
Tchoukball: Fédération Internationale de Tchoukball
Kabaddi: International Kabaddi Federation (IKF)
Kickboxing: World Federation of Kickboxing (WFK)
Kickboxing, Muay Thai and San Shou: International Kickboxing Federation (IKF)
Kung Fu: International Kung Fu Federation (IKF)
Lacrosse: Federation of International Lacrosse (FIL)
This organisation was founded in August 2008 with the merger of the sport's two former governing bodies: the International Lacrosse Federation (ILF), which governed the men's sport, and the International Federation of Women's Lacrosse Associations (IFWLA), which governed the women's sport.
Mallakhamb: Mallakhamb Confederation of World (MCW)
Mixed martial arts: International Sport Combat Federation (ISCF)
Modern Arnis: International Modern Arnis Federation (IMAF)
Mountainboarding: International Mountainboard Riders Association (IMRA)
Muay Thai: International Kickboxing Federation (IKF)
Mountain running: World Mountain Running Association (WMRA)
Paddleball: National Paddleball Association (NPA)
Parkour: World Freerunning Parkour Federation (WFPF)
Pesäpallo: Pesäpalloliitto
Pigeon racing: Royal Pigeon Racing Association (RPRA)
Poker: International Federation of Poker (IFP)
Pole dance: International Pole Sports Federation [IPSF]
Practical shooting: International Practical Shooting Confederation (IPSC)
Quidditch: International Quidditch Association (IQA)
Quizzing: International Quizzing Association (IQA)
Racketlon: International Racketlon Federation (FIR)
Radio-controlled car racing: International Federation of Model Auto Racing (IFMAR)
Rafting: [2] International Rafting Federation (IRF)
Rogaining: International Rogaining Federation (IRF)
Rounders: National Rounders Association (NRA)
Rock-It-Ball: International Rock-It-Ball Federation (IRIBF)
Rope skipping: World Rope Skipping Confederation (WRSC)
Rubik's Cube: World Cube Association (WCA)
Rugby league: Rugby League International Federation (RLIF)
Shinty: Camanachd Association
Shuttlecock: International Shuttlecock Federation
Skateboarding: International Skateboarding Federation (ISF)
Skibobbing: International Skibob Federation (FISB)
Slot car racing: International Slot Racing Association (ISRA)
Table hockey: International Table Hockey Federation (ITHF)
Table Soccer: International Table Soccer Federation (ITSF)
Tent Pegging : International Tent Pegging Federation (ITPF)
Throwball: International Throwball Federation (ITF)
Boot throwing: International Bootthrowing Association (IBTA)
Touch football: Federation of International Touch (FIT)
Villowo: International Villowo Federation (IVF)[citation needed]
Vovinam: International Vovinam Federation (IVF)/The Vovinam-VietVoDao World Federation (WVVF)
VX (sport): Global VX[11]
Yoga:Yogasports Confederation of World (YCW)

See also
Association of International Olympic Winter Sports Federations (AIOWF)
Association of IOC Recognised International Sports Federations (ARISF)
Association of Summer Olympic International Federations (ASOIF)
International Olympic Committee (IOC)
International Paralympic Committee (IPC)
SportAccord (GAISF)

Notes and references

"Olympic Sports". International Olympic Committee. Retrieved 2010-03-13.
http://www.arisf.org/members
Recognised Sports of the International Olympic Committee International Olympic Committee official website. Retrieved 2 May 2008.
International Federation for chess. International Olympic Committee official website. Retrieved 2 May 2008.
FIDE - Uniting the Chess World FIDE Official website. Retrieved 2 May 2008.
Cricket edges closer to Olympic roster by AFP. Retrieved on 13 February 2010.

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by MartinCarpenter » Fri Sep 25, 2015 11:45 pm

Thorough! And not containing recreational walking, if the logical off shoots.

The most baffling thing with classifying the Ramblers that way is definitely that they do precisely no governing in any usual sense. Deserves money from the pots for encouraging public fitness though, so whatever stupid formalism it takes I guess :)

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by JustinHorton » Sat Sep 26, 2015 12:07 am

Stewart Reuben wrote:Herewith the list of sporting federations......
1. Why not just provide a link?

2. Why not use this thread for mentions of chess in contemporary media?
"Do you play chess?"
"Yes, but I prefer a game with a better chance of cheating."

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Gerard Killoran » Sat Sep 26, 2015 12:48 pm

To get the thread back on topic, here's a review of three recent chess movies from a left wing perspective,
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/09/25/ ... -metaphor/
A 'miserable worm' - Nigel Short

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:26 pm

Italy-Canada in the rugby world cup is "a massive game of chess and the best player will win" apparently :lol:

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