Times cryptic chess clue

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Re: Times cryptic chess clue

Post by Paul Habershon » Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:14 am

The Crossword Help Forum site has a post mentioning this clue in yesterday's Times:

One dissenting from popular line plugged by chess authority (7)

INFIDEL

So solvers are expected to know FIDE, though googling 'chess authority' brings it up immediately.

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Re: Times cryptic chess clue

Post by Paul Habershon » Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:17 am

This was my LOI (last one in) yesterday:

Stands apart from British men put in the corner (5)

ROOKS

Definition: men put in the corner

Cryptically
brooks=stands (e.g. brooks no opposition)

Remove B for British ('apart from British')

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Re: Times cryptic chess clue

Post by Simon Brown » Thu Jun 13, 2024 2:45 pm

Hard one today. "No knight, evidently, taking queen in game (5)"

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Re: Times cryptic chess clue

Post by Paul Habershon » Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:33 pm

Simon Brown wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2024 2:45 pm
Hard one today. "No knight, evidently, taking queen in game (5)"
I didn't attempt that crossword yesterday but I have looked at the solution today and would certainly have needed letters towards the answer to that clue.
Answer: ROQUE, a game described as an American form of croquet. Apparently it was played in the 1904 Olympics. As for the cryptic element I don't think much of ROUE (a debauched man, often elderly) equating to 'No knight'. Taking in Q for queen is obviously ok.

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Re: Times cryptic chess clue

Post by John Clarke » Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:52 pm

Have to agree with Paul's comments. The definition part of the clue is particularly poor. A year or two back, I had several goes at the fortnightly cluing competition in the Guardian's Crossword Blog column, and got piled on a couple of times for violating the expected conventions. One of which is that you don't define something by saying what it isn't.
"The chess-board is the world ..... the player on the other side is hidden from us ..... he never overlooks a mistake, or makes the smallest allowance for ignorance."
(He doesn't let you resign and start again, either.)

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Re: Times cryptic chess clue

Post by Geoff Chandler » Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:11 am

Apparently in the NY times crossword, Monday 17th June:

"Perhaps a king or queen, but not a prince (10)"

extra clue: I would have given number of letters as (5 and 5)

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Re: Times cryptic chess clue

Post by Paul Habershon » Sun Jun 23, 2024 4:52 pm

Geoff Chandler wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:11 am
Apparently in the NY times crossword, Monday 17th June:

"Perhaps a king or queen, but not a prince (10)"

extra clue: I would have given number of letters as (5 and 5)
Is the solution CHESSPIECE? On the (10) v (5, 5) question I was surprised to see that the single word version is indeed acceptable for Scrabble.

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Re: Times cryptic chess clue

Post by Geoff Chandler » Mon Jun 24, 2024 12:42 am

Hi Paul wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2024 4:52 pm
Yes chesspiece. I saw the clue in a chessgames thread. Gave that answer, no reply. Must be right.

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Re: Times cryptic chess clue

Post by Simon Brown » Wed Dec 04, 2024 2:56 pm

One from the Times today; "Queen, potentially, with even less money for merchant? (10)"

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Re: Times cryptic chess clue

Post by Roland Kensdale » Wed Dec 04, 2024 5:55 pm

Simon Brown wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2024 2:56 pm
One from the Times today; "Queen, potentially, with even less money for merchant? (10)"
I think I've finally got one of these: pawnbroker

Not sure if should've held off to let others solve.

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Re: Times cryptic chess clue

Post by Reg Clucas » Wed Dec 04, 2024 8:28 pm

Roland Kensdale wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2024 5:55 pm
Simon Brown wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2024 2:56 pm
One from the Times today; "Queen, potentially, with even less money for merchant? (10)"
I think I've finally got one of these: pawnbroker

Not sure if should've held off to let others solve.
Not sure whether 'broker' is valid in this context. You're either broke or you're not!

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Re: Times cryptic chess clue

Post by Richard Bates » Thu Dec 05, 2024 7:32 am

Reg Clucas wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2024 8:28 pm
Roland Kensdale wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2024 5:55 pm
Simon Brown wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2024 2:56 pm
One from the Times today; "Queen, potentially, with even less money for merchant? (10)"
I think I've finally got one of these: pawnbroker

Not sure if should've held off to let others solve.
Not sure whether 'broker' is valid in this context. You're either broke or you're not!
Well if you can be “flat broke”, as opposed to just “broke” then I suppose you can arguably be broker? Perhaps more so if assumed that the money for the merchant is to “buy (make new purchases) from” rather than “pay (meet existing debts to)”.

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Re: Times cryptic chess clue

Post by Simon Brown » Fri Dec 06, 2024 3:09 pm

Another one today; "Friend from Eastern Europe reported fall of King (9)" and an easy one from yesterday "Grandmaster capturing a piece in sacrificial stratagem (6)"

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Re: Times cryptic chess clue

Post by Roland Kensdale » Fri Dec 06, 2024 6:12 pm

Simon Brown wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2024 3:09 pm
Another one today; "Friend from Eastern Europe reported fall of King (9)" and an easy one from yesterday "Grandmaster capturing a piece in sacrificial stratagem (6)"
Czech (reported=sounds like) and mate so checkmate.

I have the easier one but will leave for others to have a go at.

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Re: Times cryptic chess clue

Post by Roland Kensdale » Fri Dec 06, 2024 7:39 pm

Roland Kensdale wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2024 6:12 pm
Simon Brown wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2024 3:09 pm
Another one today; "Friend from Eastern Europe reported fall of King (9)" and an easy one from yesterday "Grandmaster capturing a piece in sacrificial stratagem (6)"
Czech (reported=sounds like) and mate so checkmate.

I have the easier one but will leave for others to have a go at.
Edit: more correctly: mate (friend)+Czech (reported=sounds like) so checkmate