2012 Olympiad results and games

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Re: 2012 Olympiad results and games

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:11 pm

What is happening in Howell's game? The site engine was saying a draw after 56...a3 and 57.Rd8 (both of which were played), but something else has happened... They both seem to be blitzing - what is the time control?

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Re: 2012 Olympiad results and games

Post by Nick Thomas » Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:16 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:Gaswain has drawn, so the question now seems to be our margin of victory. As I said above, a very good team performance. I wonder whether Gawain was more or less OK after he sacrificed/was forced to lose his queen?
But is Short going to draw his game?

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Re: 2012 Olympiad results and games

Post by Mick Norris » Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:17 pm

90m:30m+30spm(1) is the time control
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Re: 2012 Olympiad results and games

Post by Andrew Camp » Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:18 pm

Short is winning.
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Re: 2012 Olympiad results and games

Post by Roger de Coverly » Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:20 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:They both seem to be blitzing - what is the time control?
If the times on the clocks are to be believed, they are both left with only the 30 second increment. I believe they are using the "5 hour game" control, 40 moves in 90 minutes plus 30, with 30 second increment from the start of the game.

It's now showing as a draw with the final few moves being a repetition.

The engine assessment in Nigel's game is still optimistic of Black's drawing chances, but Knight v bad Bishop can give good winning chances, especially as Black is low on time.

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Re: 2012 Olympiad results and games

Post by Andrew Camp » Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:21 pm

Short is crushing.
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Re: 2012 Olympiad results and games

Post by Nick Thomas » Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:25 pm

Short has lost.

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Re: 2012 Olympiad results and games

Post by Nick Thomas » Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:27 pm

Only kidding.

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Re: 2012 Olympiad results and games

Post by John Moore » Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:31 pm

3-1 against Cuba is a great result - wins with White and draws with Black.

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Post by Mick Norris » Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:31 pm

Very good result, and the board order seems to be working fine too

Wonder who the next opponents will be
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Post by John Philpott » Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:37 pm

Meanwhile, the women drew 2 - 2 with Kyrgyzstan - a win for Sarah but a loss for Kanwal.

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Re: 2012 Olympiad results and games

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:51 pm

Great stuff, isn't it - let's try to remember to support them if/when they lose too.

Elsewhere update - Ukraine won the last two games to beat Israel, and Denmark did the same to draw with Scotland. Ireland won 4-0, for the second time, after losing 3.5-0,5 - anyone would think they were in the women's section - and their opponents today (Algeria) had an interesting line up in two respects; their board two was more than 100 points lower than their board three (see above) but moreover, those players were a FM rated 2030 and an IM of 2155! I can think of other similar examples from less fancied teams too. Presumably these are people who got their titles by the Olympiad route - there are a lot of them!

Last time I suggested Vietnam as a potential surprise package. They then started with 4/4 but then crashed. This time, my surprise Asian pick, for better or worse, is the Philippines.

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Re: 2012 Olympiad results and games

Post by Andrew Bak » Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:58 pm

Some fascinating chess today - well done to England for a superb victory! Done in true Russian style, draw with Black and grind out wins with white whilst making sure you won't lose.

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Re: 2012 Olympiad results and games

Post by Roger de Coverly » Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:07 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote: Presumably these are people who got their titles by the Olympiad route - there are a lot of them!
According to the FIDE rating site, the IM got his title at a Zonal in 1985 whilst the FM got his at an U14 event. It's a long standing FIDE tradition to give away titles as prizes. David Levy became an IM by this route in 1969. I think that made him the first British IM since Penrose, who in turn was the only new qualifier once FIDE had ceased grandfathering titles in the early fifties.

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Re: 2012 Olympiad results and games

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:17 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Jonathan Rogers wrote: Presumably these are people who got their titles by the Olympiad route - there are a lot of them!
According to the FIDE rating site, the IM got his title at a Zonal in 1985 whilst the FM got his at an U14 event. It's a long standing FIDE tradition to give away titles as prizes. David Levy became an IM by this route in 1969. I think that made him the first British IM since Penrose, who in turn was the only new qualifier once FIDE had ceased grandfathering titles in the early fifties.
Talking of which, I checked the FIDE rating page for Nick Pert, and it still insists that his GM title was gained in 2001. Other sources indicate 2003 or 2004. I've never quite understood that one. I thought it might have been to do with him being World Under-18 Chess Champion in 1998, but don't know if that resulted in a norm or not.

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