Chess & Bridge Withdraw Ray Keene's Book from Sale
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"LOL, although one suspects that those whom Ray might considered "unbiased" wouldn't readily conform to Justin's use of the word."
And probably vice versa as well!
And probably vice versa as well!
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Ray ought to donate a dozen of this book to the Kingston library service if he wants us to read it. Set the highest Council Tax in the UK. Get real. Same as for papers - free in the morning & evening. Many cafes offer free papers.
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The new administrator is doing their best, but you get the occasional faux pas such as puzzles being "recycled" in a matter of days.Roger de Coverly wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:45 pmIt's still being updated with games. 1777 games dated 2019 for example.Christopher Kreuzer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:26 pmBTW, does anyone know what the latest is on chessgames (the website)? Is it still being administered on an interim basis, or is it on a more stable long-term footing again?
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Gordon Cadden wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:15 amBanned books are always sought after. Must put this book on my WANTS list.
Perhaps you could compare the GMRDKOBE book with Lady Chatterley's Lover, Animal Farm or The Canterbury Tales ? They suffered a similar fate.
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The BCM has published a long defence of the book. It is not very good.
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The actual location is https://lostontime.blogspot.com/2019/05 ... iddle.htmlJustinHorton wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:31 amThe BCM has published a long defence of the book. It is not very good.
The BCM review (in terms of attitude) is one of the many reasons I abandoned ship in December 2015.
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Thanks for that: I had htmll which I have now corrected to html.
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One small example here of how Jimmy Adams operates.
My 5 December 2018 article (https://www.patreon.com/posts/meal-ticket-23138934) about the Keene/Jacobs book on the Carlsen-Caruana match took a grand total of four words to point out the book's misspelling "Kieseritsky" instead of Kieseritzky. Jimmy Adams' 11-page defence of the book (and, particularly, of Raymond Keene) in the May 2019 British Chess Magazine has this on page 303:
Where to start? As a plain matter of fact, Keene has used the misspelling "Kieseritsky" dozens of times over many decades, including, for instance, in his 1974 Nimzowitsch book (and the 1999 algebraic edition). Given that I was born in 1977, I have no idea which "book on Staunton" published when I was five years old Jimmy Adams may have in mind. It cannot be the Keene/Coles work on Staunton because it was published in 1975 and used mainly, though not exclusively, "Kieseritsky." Both spellings are also in the Keene book Staunton's City (2004). Indeed, both can be found there on a single page (page 27).
How computer software may be a consideration in any of this, as Jimmy Adams suggests, is a mystery.
On the subject of spelling, Jimmy Adams' attack on me in the BCM gives my name no fewer than 23 times. He misspells it every single time.
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My 5 December 2018 article (https://www.patreon.com/posts/meal-ticket-23138934) about the Keene/Jacobs book on the Carlsen-Caruana match took a grand total of four words to point out the book's misspelling "Kieseritsky" instead of Kieseritzky. Jimmy Adams' 11-page defence of the book (and, particularly, of Raymond Keene) in the May 2019 British Chess Magazine has this on page 303:
Where to start? As a plain matter of fact, Keene has used the misspelling "Kieseritsky" dozens of times over many decades, including, for instance, in his 1974 Nimzowitsch book (and the 1999 algebraic edition). Given that I was born in 1977, I have no idea which "book on Staunton" published when I was five years old Jimmy Adams may have in mind. It cannot be the Keene/Coles work on Staunton because it was published in 1975 and used mainly, though not exclusively, "Kieseritsky." Both spellings are also in the Keene book Staunton's City (2004). Indeed, both can be found there on a single page (page 27).
How computer software may be a consideration in any of this, as Jimmy Adams suggests, is a mystery.
On the subject of spelling, Jimmy Adams' attack on me in the BCM gives my name no fewer than 23 times. He misspells it every single time.
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I suspect the "misspelling" of your name was deliberate as an attempt of what JBA might call humour.O.G. Urcan wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:18 pmOn the subject of spelling, Jimmy Adams' attack on me in the BCM gives my name no fewer than 23 times. He misspells it every single time.
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The fact that BCM chose to waste so much subscribers publishing space on what objective persons (as opposed to mates of The Penguin) would rate as a dreadful book does not surprise but does disappoint. I had held JBA in higher esteem but possibly there was influence from RDKs circle of friends to publish the article. Unfortunately knowing one of the current owners of BCM leads me to this suggestion.
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BCM is still going, then? Who are its current owners?
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Just about. They are :Jonathan Rogers wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 2:20 pmBCM is still going, then? Who are its current owners?
Stephen Lowe (who has deep pockets)
IM Shaun Taulbut (who I get on very well with)
It would be interesting and amusing to ask
Bernard Cafferty, John Saunders, Steve Giddins and Malcolm Pein to give their impressions of the "management" style of SL.
I suspect they would be far too discrete to reveal their true assessment.
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Giddins is a big mate of RDK's isn't he? Or at any rate was.......
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But longer ago than that he wasn’t.Matt Mackenzie wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 3:05 pmGiddins is a big mate of RDK's isn't he? Or at any rate was.......
Of course the BCM hasn’t only just recently turned to cack. It’s been putrid for years. Well,decades imho, but certainly including John Upham’s time there
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I agree !Jonathan Bryant wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 9:56 pmOf course the BCM hasn’t only just recently turned to cack. It’s been putrid for years. Well,decades imho, but certainly including John Upham’s time there
The best period for BCM was that of Brian and Freddy Reilly IMHO but others may disagree.
The meetings we had with the business owners were not my best memories (they were painful) and I should have left much earlier than I did : the writing was on the wall and I buried my head in the sand.
Have a guess at the total budget we were allowed for monthly magazine production...
From this minuscule budget we had to pay (or not !) contributors, source photographs, typesetting, etc etc.
I completely understand what happened to Steve Giddins, his reasons for leaving and the items he was posting here, there and everywhere : total frustration.
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I probably saved them 50p three years ago by declining to annotate a game of mine from a recent tournament in return for a free copy of the magazine the game appeared in.John Upham wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 11:33 pmHave a guess at the total budget we were allowed for monthly magazine production...
From this minuscule budget we had to pay (or not !) contributors, source photographs, typesetting, etc etc.