Message from CJ de Mooi

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Re: Message from CJ de Mooi

Post by Jon Mahony » Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:09 pm

Totally missed this news until I happened across this, I assume from his more recent twitter posts that CJ managed to keep his house?

As for the big A diagnosis he has lived with for 30 years, that must be a horrendous to wake up to each morning - yes medical advances these days do not make it the imminently deadly disease it used to be, but it is still ultimately killing the person.

I have to say his financial difficulties (or at least one of them) were self inflicted - the man wrote in an autobiography that he probably killed somebody, and then was surprised at the consequences - extremely silly thing to do, which I think he hoped would just sell some copy’s of the book.
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Re: Message from CJ de Mooi

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:36 pm

"the man wrote in an autobiography that he probably killed somebody"

No he didn't - he said he defended himself when attacked.

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Re: Message from CJ de Mooi

Post by Roger de Coverly » Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:37 pm

Kevin Thurlow wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:36 pm
No he didn't - he said he defended himself when attacked.
One of the contemporary newspaper reports at the time of the autobiography.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/peop ... 89195.html

If his autobiography was legally vetted, it's surprising that he wasn't advised to leave that bit out, or at least word it to preclude the Dutch police from being able to knock at his door.

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Re: Message from CJ de Mooi

Post by Jon Mahony » Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:50 pm

Kevin Thurlow wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:36 pm
"the man wrote in an autobiography that he probably killed somebody"

No he didn't - he said he defended himself when attacked.
He said something along the lines that “I fully expect I killed him” I remember reading it at the time.

Suffice to say if I’d seen a go fund me to help bail him out of that, I would have given £0.00
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Re: Message from CJ de Mooi

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:58 pm

Jon Mahony wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:50 pm
Kevin Thurlow wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:36 pm
"the man wrote in an autobiography that he probably killed somebody"

No he didn't - he said he defended himself when attacked.
He said something along the lines that “I fully expect I killed him” I remember reading it at the time.
You can actually read it at this time if you click on the link Roger provided
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Re: Message from CJ de Mooi

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:04 pm

It is also possible to read the earlier part of this thread which informs us that there are actually differences between the account given in the autobiography and that given in the newspaper serialisation of the autobiography, for reasons that to my knowledge remain unclear and unexplained. But the differences should at least have been evident to all parties at the time.
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Re: Message from CJ de Mooi

Post by Jon Mahony » Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:25 pm

JustinHorton wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:58 pm
Jon Mahony wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:50 pm
Kevin Thurlow wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:36 pm
"the man wrote in an autobiography that he probably killed somebody"

No he didn't - he said he defended himself when attacked.
He said something along the lines that “I fully expect I killed him” I remember reading it at the time.
You can actually read it at this time if you click on the link Roger provided
I didn’t see that when I posted, but having clicked it I can see that it was not necessary as what I remember at the time is still largely accurate. But thank you for a totally pointless post Kevin, much appreciated 👍
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Re: Message from CJ de Mooi

Post by Roger Lancaster » Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:40 pm

Have to say, my honest reaction to this thread is "Who cares?"

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Re: Message from CJ de Mooi

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:22 pm

"But thank you for a totally pointless post Kevin, much appreciated "

You're welcome - always good to get the truth out there.

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Re: Message from CJ de Mooi

Post by Carl Hibbard » Wed Mar 11, 2020 5:51 am

Carl Hibbard wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:45 pm
I am tempted to close this one off too and just wish him well.
Had quite enough of this thread so closing it off.
Cheers
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