No, don't do away with leagues, but do do away with Congresses. Then we can go back to having 100 board County Matches.Stewart Reuben wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 1:02 pmWe don't want any of that stuff! Also do away with leagues while you are about it.
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I agree with that to the extent of good playing conditions and organisation. However, I do not regard other people getting large cash prizes as good value for my money, except possibly in that it persuades strong players to enter and then I may play against them.Stewart Reuben wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 1:02 pmGenerally in chess, if you want more entries, you should charge higher entry fees and give value for money.
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Another matter. For non professional, non aspiring players, instead of having prize money, offer trophies. I only thought of that for the British Championships after I ceased to be in charge. It makes most sense for ECF events as 20% of the entry fees go to the government in VAT.
The European Senior Chess Team Championship concluded yesterday. The chance of one of our three teams winning prize money was very remote. But we did win three individual medal. 65+ John Quinn silver on board 1. He was delighted. Brain Ewart won silver on the reserve board. 50+ Steve Mannion oops. Steve Ledger. Thank you DS) won bronze also on the reserve board.
The European Senior Chess Team Championship concluded yesterday. The chance of one of our three teams winning prize money was very remote. But we did win three individual medal. 65+ John Quinn silver on board 1. He was delighted. Brain Ewart won silver on the reserve board. 50+ Steve Mannion oops. Steve Ledger. Thank you DS) won bronze also on the reserve board.
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I think that you mean Steve Ledger.Stewart Reuben wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:32 pm50+ Steve Mannion won bronze also on the reserve board.
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Now on that we could reach agreement. I still have my Nottingham u14 trophy - though - telling a story against myself - at the time I was pretty miffed that the promised prize of 7s 6d had been used to buy it. I still remember the organiser (R G Thimann) answering me with the comment, "Well I think it's rather fine, Farthing!" with which, mainly out of deference, I hesitantly concurrred.Stewart Reuben wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:32 pmAnother matter. For non professional, non aspiring players, instead of having prize money, offer trophies. I only thought of that for the British Championships after I ceased to be in charge. It makes most sense for ECF events as 20% of the entry fees go to the government in VAT.
The European Senior Chess Team Championship concluded yesterday. The chance of one of our three teams winning prize money was very remote. But we did win three individual medal. 65+ John Quinn silver on board 1. He was delighted. Brain Ewart won silver on the reserve board. 50+ Steve Mannion won bronze also on the reserve board.
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Michael Farthing wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:43 pmI was pretty miffed that the promised prize of 7s 6d had been used to buy it.
Maybe he said "Well I think it's a rather fine farthing!" which was actually not aimed at you, but his delight at the change he got back from his 7s 6d?Michael Farthing wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:43 pmI still remember the organiser (R G Thimann) answering me with the comment, "Well I think it's rather fine, Farthing!"
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What a cynic! The thought had never crossed my mind. Mind you, the trophy is certainly finer than those issued to winners in the County Championship (sorry Alex, but it is). Anyway, if he's still with us and someone can give me his address I'll write and demand my 7s 5¾d
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Michael, to save you the trouble of writing, Reg died - in 1985, I think. He left us with a book on the King's Gambit. I believe he was an entomologist.
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That's interesting. When I first knew him he was studying for a PhD but gave it up to become an Inspector of Taxes. I remember asking him with incredulity why he had given up the PhD (something which, both then and now, I would have loved to do) and his response was that the PhD was 'boring'.John Townsend wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:17 amMichael, to save you the trouble of writing, Reg died - in 1985, I think. He left us with a book on the King's Gambit. I believe he was an entomologist.
I think he was also possibly the first adult who as a 'child' I was on first-name terms with (other than with an introductory 'uncle' or 'auntie' - regardless of whether any actual relationship existed - a strange custom of the time). He must have died at an early age - indeed before his father, who I also knew since he was my French teacher.
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When and where was this Michael? I can remember Reg Thimann as the Notts Junior Chess organiser.
Sorry to go off at a tangent btw.
Sorry to go off at a tangent btw.
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Neil,
1964-67. It was indeed Nottingham(shire). We used to play at the Boots Institute opposite Trent Bridge.
1964-67. It was indeed Nottingham(shire). We used to play at the Boots Institute opposite Trent Bridge.
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"Another matter. For non professional, non aspiring players, instead of having prize money, offer trophies."
John Sargent used to give small trophies and cash prizes at his monthly rapidplays. I didn't think the strong players would like that, but a visiting IM enthusiastically received the trophy and said he was delighted as he had never won one before!
John Sargent used to give small trophies and cash prizes at his monthly rapidplays. I didn't think the strong players would like that, but a visiting IM enthusiastically received the trophy and said he was delighted as he had never won one before!
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Which event was this?Ian Thompson wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:22 pmI came across a 1 day rapidplay entry form today with a single Open section that offered 2 levels of entry fee:
1. £19 - eligible to win prize money
2. £6 - ineligible for prize money
1st prize is £130; amount of 2nd and 3rd prizes dependent on entries; additional prizes dependent on entries.
Assuming you'd decided you wanted to play in the event which entry fee would you choose?
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I like tournaments that offer boxes of chocolates or bottles of wine as prizes. (This is what happens in go tournaments where entry fees are proportionately lower as a result). I accept prize money is important and a motivator at the top level but at amateur level I am playing for the entertainment value not the prize. And entry fees levels are important. Too high and it is not value for money,