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Bandit website

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:56 am
by Paul McKeown
I paid for a subscription to the website for the last world championship.

I assumed they were a normal type of web business, however, I just got an email saying they would renew my subscription for $25 on November 9th.

There is no visible means to remove one's subscription, either in the email or on the website, logged on or otherwise.

I have sent a mail to support, but not happy with this means of doing business, even if support do unsubscribe me.

Anyone know the people running this site?

Re: Bandit website

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:59 am
by John Upham
Paul,

Which web site are we discussing ?

Re: Bandit website

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:59 am
by JustinHorton
What's the URL?

Re: Bandit website

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:08 am
by Paul McKeown
worldchess.com

Re: Bandit website

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:43 am
by JustinHorton
Oh, tracing the ownership of World Chess is quite the labyrinth if I recall

Re: Bandit website

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:48 am
by NickFaulks
JustinHorton wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:43 am
Oh, tracing the ownership of World Chess is quite the labyrinth if I recall
Don't we all just believe it's Merenzon? He is certainly the CEO.

Re: Bandit website

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:56 am
by JustinHorton
As I recall there's a World Chess Events Limited and a World Chess PLC and I can't remember if the relationship between the two was entirely clear.

Re: Bandit website

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:25 pm
by JustinHorton
Anyway, while their page about themselves does not actually tell us anything about themselves, Companies House tells us that it's Merenzon and a guy called Matvey Shokhovtsov. Whether they're really the people in control, well, who knows.

Re: Bandit website

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:26 pm
by Mick Norris
Matvey Shokhovtsov appears to be the legal guy involved in trying to stop us seeing the moves live unless we pay

Re: Bandit website

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:54 pm
by Paul McKeown
Two emails and two voice messages left on their corporate telephone number (USA), no sign of a response.

I fear they will just attempt to renew, without bothering to remove me from their subscribers. Easy money, no customer care necessary.

I guess I will have to talk to my bank to see if there is any way I can prevent payment being taken, otherwise try the various avenues for consumer advice.

Re: Bandit website

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:57 pm
by Paul McKeown
And, of course, only one week's advance notice of the renewal, to make it really awkward to cancel.

Re: Bandit website

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:05 am
by Roger de Coverly
Paul McKeown wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:54 pm

I guess I will have to talk to my bank to see if there is any way I can prevent payment being taken, otherwise try the various avenues for consumer advice.
If you paid by Direct Debit and have online banking, cancel the DD. If it's through a credit card, I'd imagine you have to contact the issuers to cancel.

Re: Bandit website

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:33 pm
by Paul McKeown
Plastering this story all over their twitter feed and facebook page seems to have provoked some sort of response. I shall await developments.

Re: Bandit website

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:01 pm
by JustinHorton
Presumably this has happened to other people?

Re: Bandit website

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:09 pm
by Paul McKeown
From the Twitter feed, it is obvious that lots of people have the same problem, various complaints.

Kicking off a storm on Twitter would appear to have produced a swift response. They appear now to have cancelled it.

Anyone else this happens to, my advice: s**t all over their Twitter feed. No point using the official support channels, they just ignore you.