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'Go' master quits

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:32 am
by Reg Clucas
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-50573071

A strange reason for quitting, and I am not just thinking of the comparison with chess. There are many other fields where machines perform better than humans.

Re: 'Go' master quits

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:23 pm
by Matt Mackenzie
There are, admittedly less prominent, people who have given up chess for the same reason. IMO it is fallacious logic in both cases.

Re: 'Go' master quits

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:42 pm
by Paul Cooksey
I understand it though. I felt chess was a bit diminished when it became clear machines had overtaken humans. We've had a long time to come to terms with that, but I think until recently Go players thought their game might be different.

Re: 'Go' master quits

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:16 pm
by MartinCarpenter
With some reason of course.

He is also really not that young anymore - and has been pro since he was 12(!) - so you can definitely see why he might react this way.

Re: 'Go' master quits

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:58 am
by NickFaulks
In other news, Usain Bolt has retired because he realises that he cannot compete with Lewis Hamilton.

Re: 'Go' master quits

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:32 am
by Michael Farthing
NickFaulks wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:58 am
In other news, Usain Bolt has retired because he realises that he cannot compete with Lewis Hamilton.
:lol:

Re: 'Go' master quits

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:51 pm
by Reg Clucas
NickFaulks wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:58 am
In other news, Usain Bolt has retired because he realises that he cannot compete with Lewis Hamilton.
Yes, just one of the "...other fields where machines perform better...".

Re: 'Go' master quits

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:59 pm
by Kevin Thurlow
"Yes, just one of the "...other fields where machines perform better..."."

But remember the cartoon where a Dalek says to his colleagues, "We must exterminate everyone in this house - Oh ****, they have gone upstairs."

Re: 'Go' master quits

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:20 am
by Joey Stewart
Is cheating in go as bad as chess? That could be another reason to give up - I have been getting a bit bored of the number of engines I have to face on lichess recently

Re: 'Go' master quits

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:45 am
by John McKenna
Korean World Champion Go player, Lee Sedol announced his retirement as he has encountered "an entity that cannot be defeated"!

I'm not sure about the translation into that statement and I'd hesitate to call AlphaGo an 'entity' in the complete sense of the word.