Worrying times

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Re: Worrying times

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:16 pm

John Clarke wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:48 pm
As for the present crisis, I think we're beginning to see here the downside of globalisation, and that pernicious "just in time" approach to the movement and storage of goods. So much of the world's mass-manufacturing capacity is concentrated in a single part of the world (east Asia). All right - in some people's terms anyway - as long as transport is able to function freely, but now ...

All a bit incoherent, but I haven't really time to write it up properly. Just look on it as ideas being tossed in for consideration and discussion.
There are going to be major changes as a consequence of this, for (almost certainly) both good and ill.
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Re: Worrying times

Post by Colin Purdon » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:20 pm

Kevin Thurlow wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:34 pm
I seem to remember an old disaster movie, where the world was doomed, then it rained and it solved the problem. Maybe an early appearance for Christopher Lee?
Night of the Big Heat which indeed starred Christopher Lee.

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Re: Worrying times

Post by NickFaulks » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:40 pm

John Clarke wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:48 pm
As for the present crisis, I think we're beginning to see here the downside of globalisation, and that pernicious "just in time" approach to the movement and storage of goods.
Statement of the bleeding obvious for most of us, with the only people who didn't see it coming being the really clever ones who run the place. They will of course have organised matters so they don't come to any personal harm whatever happens.
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Re: Worrying times

Post by JustinHorton » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:40 pm

Neil Graham wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:00 pm
Matt Bridgeman wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:47 pm
I have a memory the final BBC Day of the Triffids (1981) episode. The last of the main characters steal a Land Rover and flee the remnants of the military, who were planning a new feudal society. A bit like so many zombie stories, the actual killer plants end up being the least of their worries.
It wasn't the Military - it was a man (Torrance) who had set up a system of serfdoms in the South of England. The main characters escaped to the Isle of Wight.
Very much a good-bad book, to use Orwell's term: I read it only three or four years ago. Some fantastic stuff like some of the sequences in London. Some very iffy stuff like for instance the same sharing-women idea that's parodied at the end or Dr Strangelove being taken very seriously.
NickFaulks wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:40 pm
. They will of course have organised matters so they don't come to any personal harm whatever happens.
Maybe. Epidemics tend to cross barriers of class and wealth though, there's no escaping them. (Already here in Spain some very senior political.figures with very dubious reputations have tested positive.)
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Re: Worrying times

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:22 pm

"Night of the Big Heat"

Yes - that's the one!

On the same theme, I know "Tripods" was supposed to be for children but the TV series was good. Actually, the third book was so scary, that BBC refused to broadcast a dramatization, which is odd, because TV/movie adaptations are so frequently nothing like the book, they could change everything.

I agree John Wyndham was awesome usually.

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Re: Worrying times

Post by Matt Bridgeman » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:31 pm

I remember reading the third Tripods book just to see what happened. Wasn’t it dropping hand grenades from hot air balloons onto the tripod factories that win the day, or something like that?

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Re: Worrying times

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:54 am

"I remember reading the third Tripods book just to see what happened."

Sadly, I didn't - I just recall the story that BBC wouldn't use it.

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Re: Worrying times

Post by Matt Bridgeman » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:01 am

Essential Sunday viewing (or was it Saturday) at a time when there was only 3 channels I’d guess. I was really upset when they canned the final series. I’m not sure the BBC ever gave a great explanation for that one. Late night repeats of classic scary films like Invasion of the Body Snatchers were the stuff of nightmares!

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Re: Worrying times

Post by Peter Turner » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:43 am

And don't forget 'The Quatermass Experiment' from BBC 1953. I remember the family getting together (Sundays I think) at an aunty who had a tv. Very scary, I hid behind the sofa and poked my head around to have a peep every now and then.

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Re: Worrying times

Post by Daniel Gormally » Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:06 am

They did a tripods series as well (possible you can still watch it on youtube)

They didn't get as far as the books though, because i think they dropped it after a second series.

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Re: Worrying times

Post by Daniel Gormally » Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:09 am

Sorry just saw Kevin's post. Didn't realize that was the reason, although they were different, quainter times. Now they'd probably be asking the producers to make it more scary...

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Re: Worrying times

Post by Matt Bridgeman » Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:19 am

It will be interesting to see if tv audiences now lose a bit of appetite for these end of the world type stories for a while.

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Re: Worrying times

Post by NickFaulks » Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:57 am

Kevin Thurlow wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:22 pm
I agree John Wyndham was awesome usually.
Yes, he was a favourite of mine at school and is well worth another read. The Midwich Cuckoos raises some quite deep questions which are of relevance today.

On the subject of reading, I formed a plan yesterday to stock up on library books for the coming period of isolation. Too late, the libraries have already closed their doors.
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Re: Worrying times

Post by JustinHorton » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:41 am

For some years now I've been taking every opportunity when back in the UK to uy secondhand books so as to build up a large stockpile for my retirement or a long period of unemployment. The second part of this was always previously said in jest.
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Re: Worrying times

Post by Matt Bridgeman » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:53 am

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Jane Harper;
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And Chris Hammer;
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