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what happens when you pass away as a chess player??

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:40 pm
by charlesgalofre
any ideas on what happens when you pass away as a chess player??

Re: what happens when you pass away as a chess player??

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:46 pm
by David Blower
I assume you mean in terms of your ECF grade. The games played before the person has died are submitted for ECF grading in the normal way. The person will then become an ungraded player.

If this is because of an ongoing situation I will just add hope everything is alright as well.

Re: what happens when you pass away as a chess player??

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:03 pm
by Ian Thompson
David Blower wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:46 pm
The person will then become an ungraded player.
They'll actually retain their grade until it expires, just like anyone else. If the ECF knows they've died, they'll have "(deceased)" appended to their name.
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Re: what happens when you pass away as a chess player??

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:58 am
by MJMcCready
Quite a lot. It will be difficult to enter tournaments, that's for sure.

Re: what happens when you pass away as a chess player??

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:50 am
by Kevin Thurlow
You can still join some committees though.

Re: what happens when you pass away as a chess player??

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:50 am
by Stewart Reuben
If you had a FIDE Rating, your name and last rating continues to appear in the FIDE Rating List until removed.

Re: what happens when you pass away as a chess player??

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:06 am
by Andy McCulloch
No sh_t.

Re: what happens when you pass away as a chess player??

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:47 pm
by David Sedgwick
Stewart Reuben wrote:
Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:50 am
If you had a FIDE Rating, your name and last rating continues to appear in the FIDE Rating List until removed.
… which will happen as soon as your Federation notifies FIDE of your demise.

Re: what happens when you pass away as a chess player??

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:51 pm
by Mike Gunn
You lose on time ...

Re: what happens when you pass away as a chess player??

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:34 pm
by Stewart Reuben
In the past, I had great difficulty removing some names from the FIDE list. The ECF is much better now and FIE respond more efficiently. . I doubt all federations are as efficient.

Re: what happens when you pass away as a chess player??

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:05 pm
by Keith Arkell
Kevin Thurlow wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:50 am
You can still join some committees though.
And you could probably get away with sitting in the spectator seats at Hastings unnoticed.

Re: what happens when you pass away as a chess player??

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 10:32 am
by Neil Graham
When someone unfortunately is deceased, your local grader should be informed so the ECF grading system can be amended to show (deceased). Bearing in mind that the on-line data goes back to 1994 there must be dozens of players who have passed on, often with no one being aware.

Re: what happens when you pass away as a chess player??

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:03 am
by J T Melsom
Neil - that's all very well in theory, but is only practical where the player continues to be active and/or in contact with the chess community until they depart. The grading list contains many players young as well as old who play a limited amount and then vanish completely. I've had the experience of players dying and the grader being correctly advised, but just as common people returning after a ten or thirty year break.

Re: what happens when you pass away as a chess player??

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:43 pm
by Neil Graham
J T Melsom wrote:
Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:03 am
Neil - that's all very well in theory, but is only practical where the player continues to be active and/or in contact with the chess community until they depart. The grading list contains many players young as well as old who play a limited amount and then vanish completely. I've had the experience of players dying and the grader being correctly advised, but just as common people returning after a ten or thirty year break.
I agree totally - however I guess there are plenty of players (or ex-players) who have died where someone has the knowledge to ask for amendments to be made. I know of a couple - I'll let the local grader know so the players are marked as (deceased).

Re: what happens when you pass away as a chess player??

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:16 pm
by J T Melsom
Neil - now would be a good time for any club officers on this forum to do a check of members on the grading list, graded and un-graded. I've just found an oversight on my own patch, particularly unfortunate as I attended the funeral. Sadly I suspect there are others unknown to me.