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From the perspective of team matches only....

Has anyone conducted a detailed evaluation of the functionality of

Tornelo vs chess.com vs lichess.org ?

My main interest in how these platforms compare from the point of view of scheduling matches and setting board orders using non-platform rating or grading data.

Any help would be much appreciated.

I'm not fussed about disconnection issues since these are likely to be outside of the platforms control.

From experience only, chess.com has wider options and greater flexibility. It's better but only because it's a bit too easy to lose your way on the other two.

Scorch Chess should be added in the conversation as a results reporting service:

https://results.scorchapp.co.uk/t/2020stage6/pairings/3

It works really well with what we're doing as a team event with Chess.com where the scorecards are displayed really nicely for example:

https://www.chess.com/club/matches/live/177313

Peter Hornsby wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:55 pm

Scorch Chess should be added in the conversation as a results reporting service:

https://results.scorchapp.co.uk/t/2020stage6/pairings/3

It works really well with what we're doing as a team event with Chess.com where the scorecards are displayed really nicely for example:

https://www.chess.com/club/matches/live/177313

Thanks for this.

Were the board pairings in the chess.com match paired by the platform or by an external influence such as a Team Captain etc?

John Upham wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:28 pm

Peter Hornsby wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:55 pm

Scorch Chess should be added in the conversation as a results reporting service:

https://results.scorchapp.co.uk/t/2020stage6/pairings/3

It works really well with what we're doing as a team event with Chess.com where the scorecards are displayed really nicely for example:

https://www.chess.com/club/matches/live/177313

Thanks for this.

Was the board pairings in the chess.com match paired by the platform or by an external influence such as a Team Captain etc?

Ah so the pairings are done in Chess.com rating order automatically for that particular time control.

The team captains will tell their respective players who are selected and they turn up to the game room 30 minutes or so before it starts.

https://results.scorchapp.co.uk/t/2020stage6/pairings/4

If you go there you'll see a box to click which says 'Join game'

Here's their website: https://scorchapp.co.uk/

Peter Hornsby wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:17 pm

Ah so the pairings are done in Chess.com rating order automatically for that particular time control.

That's something of a sticking point, even a no-go flag for organisations looking to replicate existing over the board leagues in an online format. Players new to chess.com may not even have a chess.com rating, let alone a reliable one.

Roger de Coverly wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:32 pm

Peter Hornsby wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:17 pm

Ah so the pairings are done in Chess.com rating order automatically for that particular time control.

That's something of a sticking point, even a no-go flag for organisations looking to replicate existing over the board leagues in an online format. Players new to chess.com may not even have a chess.com rating, let alone a reliable one.

Yes, indeed. That was the point I was looking to make.

In the ECF County Championships the "matches" on chess.com were, in fact, a set of pre-arranged individual encounters.

As far as chess.com was concerned no matches took place.

It was only when the results are entered onto the ECF LMS that it became clear that it was a "match"

As Roger quite rightly says, this is a sticking point.

If you chess.com or lichess do the pairings for a match then both platforms would be clueless of the actual ratings or gradings of the players.

I would count this as missing functionality for these platforms.

It's a fair point that has been raised, which is why for 2020 events we insist on players playing several rated games individually before joining to get an accurate grading.

At first there was some teething issues, however after a dozen games or so it's never mentioned anymore : )

There is some variation, for example on Lichess I'm 1769, Chess.com 1520 and ECF 130 though I don't think any of those are accurate for me!

(Edit: To be clear this has nothing to do with Scorch!)

John Upham wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:43 pm

In the ECF County Championships the "matches" on chess.com were, in fact, a set of pre-arranged individual encounters.

As far as chess.com was concerned no matches took place.

It was only when the results are entered onto the ECF LMS that it became clear that it was a "match"

How was the FIDE Online Olympiad run on chess.com? Were they also individual games as far as chess.com were concerned?

And ECF online rating.
Come back on the others. I' know that John is doing something for a number of leagues to increase chess.